Christians, real question here, please help me understand.?
Time and time again I see references like, "Jesus created man" "Jesus is God", "Jesus is the supreme being".
As I am a reformed Christian and studied different denominations (long story), I am at a loss as to what flavor of Christianity preaches that Jesus BECAME God after his death, not that he is separate from God. Those churches I attended never taught that.
So, if you believe Jesus IS God, what denomination teaches that (versus the trinity?).
Thanks for your help to increase my knowledge of this world's religious beliefs.
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
The doctrine that Jesus is God *IS* the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. There is no way for an orthodox Christian to separate the two doctrines. If the Divinity of Jesus Christ and the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity were not linked (do a Google Search on the term "hypostatic union") - then - people could rightly say that Christians are polytheists...which we are not!
As for Jesus "becoming God after His Death"...I have NO IDEA who teaches that...nor is the idea Christian in any way, shape or form.Source(s): Traditional Anglican Priest, Pastor, Seminary Professof for the last 15 years. http://www.carm.org/doctrine/2natures.htm
- Anonymous1 decade ago
They are not seperate entities: God is ONE: One being, three persons. A human is one being and one person: A cat or dog is one being and NO persons: God is one being and THREE persons. We can not FULLY understand the Trinity, but the scripures are pretty plain that God IS Trinity:
Jesus tells his apostles to baptize "in the name [notice, singular, not plural] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). This is a proof-text: three distinct Persons united in the one divine name. In 2 Corinthians 13:14, Paul writes, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." We see this same unity of divine Persons in 1 Corinthians 12:4–11, Ephesians 4:4–6, and 1 Peter 1:2–3.
The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19). How can we hold all four truths except to say all three are One God?
And yes, Jesus DID say he was God. In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am"—invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God—"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).
Also significant are passages that apply the title "the First and the Last" to Jesus. This is one of the Old Testament titles of Yahweh: "Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no god’" (Is. 44:6; cf. 41:4, 48:12).
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Oneness Pentecostals believe that Jesus is the only One. This is not true. God is made up of three beings yet they are all One in essence. You have God the Father, God the Son(Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. Jesus was always God. So was the Father and the Holy Spirit. Bible believer. Fundamental Baptists believe this way.
- starfishltdLv 51 decade ago
God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one (also commonly, but not Biblically, refereed to as the Trinity and the Godhead) in spirit and purpose as evidenced in Creation when God made man in "our" image. They are separate entities as evidenced by the fact that Jesus was able to come to earth while His Father remained in Heaven. It is also stated in the Bible that Jesus did not consider Himself to be equal with God and assumed the being of the Son. Same way with the Spirit.
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- richbergLv 44 years ago
IMHO, God isn't a being of natural strictures and laws neither is he an irritated reputation contest loser. Unlike the best way such a lot hypocritical and judgmental "christians" painting him to be. I suppose that if he exists he most likely is aware you so much higher than you even have an understanding of your self and therefor wholly is aware your option to not embody him and so could most likely no longer fault you or keep contempt for you due to the fact of it. For all you recognize whilst that fateful day comes, and also you stand earlier than him in judgment he would possibly discover you to be an certainly extraordinary fella and vais versa. To quote Orlando Bloom in Kingdom of Heaven "God will have an understanding of, and if he does no longer then he isn't god and you wish to have no longer fear.". And to reply your query the "Christian Religion" does somehow or a further state simply that nonetheless they're guys, susceptible of brain and spirit, and thus eventually improper. In all reality no guy can real have an understanding of gods will or his intentions and to say to talk on his behalf is a terrible blasphemy wherein im definite the inner most and such a lot terrible stages of hell are reserved for.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Jesus is God because of the trinity. All 3 branches of the trinity are God.
- jkhawajaLv 41 decade ago
This is an answer from a Muslim. I'm trying to stick to fact, not opinion.
Taught in the Bible
In the Bible, we see an affirmation of the deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit combined with a mono-theistic view of God, but without any explanation as to how the whole thing fits together and works. The simple affirmation of the "three-ness of God", seen at the Baptism of Jesus and the baptism of every Christian, is the Economic Trinity.
Not taught in the Bible
The developed trinity or ontological trinity, is the theological explanation as to how a mono-theistic view of God can have three-ness. This ontological trinity explains how the plumbing works and goes far beyond a simple affirmation of the three-ness of the mono-theistic God as revealed in scripture. When Jehovah’s Witnesses say trinity is not found in the Bible, they always refer to the ontological trinity (without knowing the difference themselves: JW’s don’t know the difference between Trinity and Modalism).
Fast Facts on the Trinity
The word "Trinity" does not appear in the Bible
The word "Trinity" was first used by Tertullian (c.155-230)
The doctrine of the Trinity is commonly expressed as: "One God, three Persons"
The doctrine is formally defined in the Nicene Creed, which declares Jesus to be: "God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father."
The doctrine of the Trinity took centuries to develop, but the roots of the doctrine can be seen from the first century.
The word "Trinity" is not found in the New Testament, nor is the doctrine explicitly taught there. However, foundations of the concept of the Trinity can be seen in the New Testament, especially in the Gospel of John, one of the latest and most theologically developed of the New Testament books.
Hints of Trinitarian beliefs can also be seen in the teachings of extra-biblical writers as early as the end of the first century. However, the clearest early expression of the concept came with Tertullian, a Latin theologian who wrote in the early third century. Tertullian coined the words "Trinity" and "person" and explained that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were "one in essence - not one in Person."
About a century later, in 325, the Council of Nicea set out to officially define the relationship of the Son to the Father, in response to the controversial teachings of Arius. Led by bishop Athanasius, the council established the doctrine of the Trinity as orthodoxy and condemned Arius' teaching that Christ was the first creation of God. The creed adopted by the council described Christ as "God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance (homoousios) with the Father."
Nicea did not end the controversy, however. Debate over how the creed (especially the phrase "one substance") ought to be interpreted continued to rage for decades. One group advocated the doctrine that Christ was a "similar substance" (homoiousios) as the Father. But for the most part, the issue of the Trinity was settled at Nicea and, by the fifth century, never again became a focus of serious controversy.
Most post-Nicene theological discussion of the Trinity consisted of attempts to understand and explain such a unique concept. Gregory of Nyssa, in his treatise, That There are Not Three Gods, compared the divinity shared by the three persons of the Trinity to the common "humanness," or human nature, that is shared by individual human beings. (Ironically, this initially promising explanation has been seen by some to yield a conclusion quite opposite than the title of his work.)
Saint Augustine, one of the greatest thinkers of the early church, described the Trinity as comparable to the three parts of an individual human being: mind, spirit, and will. They are three distinct aspects, yet they are inseparable and together constitute one unified human being.
- Faisal FLv 41 decade ago
Word Trinity is not present in Holy Bible. Word Trinity is present in Holy Quran.
4:171. O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs
5:73. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy) verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among themSource(s): Holy Quran
- 1 decade ago
I'm sorry I've not heard this teaching before, only the one you were used to.