How many "Palestinian States" do they need?

First Trans-Jordan was carved out of the Palestinian Territory and created for the Arab Palestinians so they would have their own state. It consisted of a little more than 70% of the original territory.

But some of the Arabs living in what was to become Israel refused the authority of King Abdullah I bin al-Hussein because he was too moderate and actually talked of peace with Israel, saying he would have signed a separate peace agreement with Israel if the Arab League hadn't opposed it so feverishly. He was assassinated by an Arab-Palestinian on July 20, 1951.

Likewise, other small portions of the original territory were carved out and handed to Syria and Lebanon to give those people the right to self determination. And again, groups of Arab-Palestinians rejected them as their homeland. Those portions added up to another 8% of the original territory, leaving the soon to be reinstated country of Israel with about 22% of what was originally promised to them for the recreation of their homeland.

But the divisions don't end there. Now there are two more factions of Arab-Palestinians. One faction is in Samaria & Judea (The West Bank) led by the Fatah government with Mahmoud Abbas serving as its president. The other faction is in Gaza led by Hamas.

The people in Gaza have proven that they do not accept the authority of Mahmoud Abbas and voted instead for the Hamas leaders. Then with the help of Hamas they assassinated many of his agents in order to put Hamas in power there.

Now Mahmoud Abbas may not be the best neighbor in the world but he is showing some signs that he might be willing to at least work towards peace with Israel. So, if sometime in the near future Abbas and his Fatah government declare the West Bank the State of Palestine and start to actually build a country like Jordan did, what will happen with Gaza?

Will the world leaders tell the Gazans that they just need to accept the government of the New Palestine or will there be yet another demand for a THIRD, no make that a FOURTH, oops, make that a FIFTH Arab-Palestinian State?

And what of the families of the 850,000 Jews that were ethnically cleansed from the Arab states over the past 100 years? When will they be allowed the right of return to the ONE and ONLY official homeland that the United Nations voted on and agreed to allow them.. namely Israel... or what's left of it?

Update:

"u Mideastern people"???

Sandra... Can't you find a party to go to?

Update 2:

asuku t - That's bunk. They aren't oppressed, they're professional victims with a lust for Israeli Blood and a determination to rule the world from Jerusalem.

Update 3:

Excuse me John E but once again you have it bass-ackwards. The Jews have done a great job of building a country and governing it. And they did it with most of their neighbors trying their level best to destroy it and them.

Update 4:

John E, by the way I almost forgot to mention. I am not your "dear" or your anything else, so please don't refer to me in such a familiar manner. It's condescending and rude.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, Trouw (Dutch newspaper), March 31, 1977.

    "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

    "For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

    Source(s): They don't want an additional PA state. They want Israel destroyed and they don't care what they have to do to 'push it into the sea'.
  • Kevin7
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    3 years ago

    Yes Jordan is a country with a Palestinian majority already

  • 1 decade ago

    And also, if a people don't like what they got by negotiation, they go to war. Various Palestinians and Arab peoples did this over who got what land in the Mid-East. If you don't like the negotiated result, you go to war and take the war result. That's pretty much the history of the world, as I see it. So they go to war, get a worse result, go to war again, lose more....3 or 4 times. Isn't there supposed to be a learning curve? There certainly was a loss of sympathy curve for me.

    So they get the war result (past wars). And shut up about it already, stop disrupting world peace.

    Source(s): Been around a few decades, have watched most of it unfold.
  • 1 decade ago

    All countries on this planet were won in wars, Israel is the only country on earth that was handed to people by God.

    Israelis have lived in that country for some 3500 years, large population or small population they have maintained a presence.

    Israelis did not send anyone out, didn't force anyone to leave, the people that got out should stay out, they can't have this piece of land.

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  • 1 decade ago

    They want it all, they don't like sharing. That is why they took over Lebanon in the early 70's after being taken in as refugees and why they are not welcome in Jordan after trying to overthrow King Hussein and not wanted in any other Arab country. Sad but true.

  • 1 decade ago

    The fact of the matter is that the Jewish population in what we call Palestine and Israel 100 years ago was made up around 2% of the population.

    After the Zionist's bombed the Kind David Hotel the international community responded by meeting their demands and voting to create the modern State of Israel. The notion that because someone of Palestinian descent could be expected to just move to Jordan, Syria and Lebanon or Egypt because they're Arab seems rather ignorant. Of course anyone should have the right to live peacefully where they want, and if Jewish people feel religiously drawn to the historical land of Israel, so be it. However, Palestinians had lived there peaceably until they were booted off there land. It's tragic that there is so much Western bias towards Israel because the people of Palestine had been one of the most ethnically diverse communities in the world, Christians from Europe who chose to settle the Holy Land, Arab farmers and a few Jewish communities mostly centered in the heart of Jerusalem. The fact is, they are sequestering the natural population into smaller and smaller territories, separated by the State of Israel-which as you can imagine, makes the governance of this turbulent region on the Palestinians side very difficult. In addition, Israel constantly thwarts Palestinian attempts to gain authority in the slivers of land they too were originally promised by bombing government ministries and civilian homes blindly aiming for Hamas.

    The issue isn't what Israel was promised, it's whether they should have been promised this land, most rational people will tell you they are the occupiers. I'm not anti-Israeli but many Western nations recognize their national parties as terrorist organizations as well and condemn the actions of their government.

    The question you should really be asking is should we be allowing religion to play a role in international lawmaking? In this day it is completely irrational to think that an entire population would be peacefully uprooted and subject to the governance of a nation built on an archaic idea that it is their traditional homeland. It would be the equivalent of 10 people moving into your house because some distant court gave them the authority, moving you into the closet and then expecting you to just shut up and deal. Granted these people might need homes and their story is indeed a tragic one, it by no means justifies your suffering.

    Source(s): G. Philo and M. Berry, Bad News from Israel. (avaliable as an E-book) A. Derschowitz, The Case for Israel, Chapters 11 and 12. Ilan Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. E. Karsh, Fabricating Israeli History.
  • 1 decade ago

    As you know, there is already a Palestinian state. It is called Jordan.

    "Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is one people and one land, with one history and one and the same fate."

    - Prince Hassan, brother of King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian National Assembly, 2nd February 1970

    "There is no family on the East Bank of the river (Jordan) that does not have relatives on the West Bank ... no family in the west that does not have branches in the east."

    - King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian National Assembly, 2nd February 1972

    "We consider it necessary to clarify to one and all, in the Arab world and outside, that the PALESTINIAN PEOPLE with its nobility and conscience is to be found HERE on the EAST Bank (of the Jordan River), The WEST Bank and the Gaza Strip. Its overwhelming majority is HERE and nowhere else."

    - King Hussein, quoted in An-Hahar, Beirut, 24th August 1972

    "The Palestinians here constitute not less than one half of the members of the armed forces. They and their brothers, the sons of Transjordan, constitute the members of one family who are equal in everything, in rights and duties." (Quoted by BBC Monitoring Service)

    - King Hussein, on Amman Radio, 3rd February 1973

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  • Canute
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    They seem to need another one, called Israel

  • 1 decade ago

    you really know your stuff. i think it would be best if they all overthrew hamas and then they could live peacefully in israel or go to jordan.

  • 1 decade ago

    The poster above gave the best answer there is. I cannot agree more.

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