michael w asked in News & EventsCurrent Events · 1 decade ago

Will Israel take note of the latest est UN demand to stop evicting Palestinians from E. Jerusalem.?

or will they as usual just ignore them. Even the US states their actions are "unhelpful"

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/...

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    Israel as usual, ignores UN rules and regulations, but controls the UN in allowing whom can speak and whom can NOT(effectively controlling) free speech. As for how Israel views the UN, see the following link : http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JP... The Jerusalem Post

    Most of the condemned homes were built PRIOR to 1948 and had NO violations until Israel installed her "Master Plan"to eliminate Arabs. Israel will not issue permits to expand homes as well as other restrictions on Arabs, BUT NOT ON JEWS.

    For Arab Palestinians, permits are PURPOSELY made hard to get. This past year the Municipality granted 59 building permits to Arab Jerusalemites. By the Municipality's own estimate there is a present shortfall of 1,000 units of Arab housing. Other widely-accepted estimates show a vastly-greater shortfall, of 20,000 to 25,000 units.

    Permits are also very expensive. To build a 200 square meter home -- smallish for Palestinian families-- on a plot of ? dunam, fees for a permit will total NIS 107,392. These figures are equal for Jews and Palestinians. However, the socioeconomic status of Palestinians is usually much lower. And typically when housing is built for Jews, the State pays for at least some of the zoning process, and large private developers absorb the rest. In a Palestinian neighborhood, by contrast, the entire expense is carried by the builder, usually a single family.

    Permits for Arab Palestinians are hard to get. This past year the Municipality granted 59 building permits to Arab Jerusalemites. By the Municipality's own estimate there is a present shortfall of 1,000 units of Arab housing. Other widely-accepted estimates show a vastly-greater shortfall, of 20,000 to 25,000 units.

    Permits are also very expensive. To build a 200 square meter home -- smallish for Palestinian families-- on a plot of ? dunam, fees for a permit will total NIS 107,392. These figures are equal for Jews and Palestinians. However, the socioeconomic status of Palestinians is usually much lower. And typically when housing is built for Jews, the State pays for at least some of the zoning process, and large private developers absorb the rest. In a Palestinian neighborhood, by contrast, the entire expense is carried by the builder, usually a single family.

    Palestinians are not allowed to build on land that has been zoned "shetach nof patuach" (open space,) "shetach yarok" (green space) etc. This land is often later expropriated for building settlements.

    Many Palestinian areas in East Jerusalem haven't yet received their "Detailed Zone Plan," even if an overall zoning plan has been approved by the Municipality. If there is no Detailed Zoning Plan, no permits are issued. The Municipality produces figures showing that some 28,000 units can be built in East Jerusalem; these figures don't disclose that almost none of them can be built at the moment. Beit Hanina, where a home was demolished on November 30, 2004, still doesn't have a completed Detailed Zoning Plan.

    Palestinians are only allowed to "infill" existing housing boundaries (less than 9% of East Jerusalem, mostly already built up.) They cannot build housing in an area, such as the outskirts of a village, where housing did not already exist. This is not the case for Jewish developments.

    Palestinians are not allowed in many places to build as densely on an individual plot of land as are Jews. So, for example, housing in the Jewish settlement of Har Homa can fill 90%-120% of the plot. (Figures over 100% refer to multi-storey homes.). In the neighboring Palestinian neighborhood of Tzur Baher, a house may cover only 35%-50% of a plot. So in many cases Palestinian landowners have already maximized the use of their piece of land and are not allowed to enlarge or to build a second unit.

    If a plot of land has several owners, such as family members, and any one of them is not a legal resident of Jerusalem (e.g. lives in the West Bank) then a permit will virtually never be issued, according to Amnesty International.

    Today approximately 197,000 Jews live in settlements in East Jerusalem built with the support of the Jerusalem Municipality. By contrast, only 500 units of municipally-supported units of housing for Arabs have been built since 1967, all in a single development, the Nusseibah Housing Project in Beit Hanina. Private building by Arabs is severely restricted, as described above.

    Since 1967 35% of all of Jerusalem has been taken by the government for various "public needs." The burden of these seizures has fallen disproportionately on Palestinians: 80% from Palestinians and 20% from Jews. Some of this land was seized from "absentee" owners who fled in 1967. But the great majority was confiscated using a law allowing expropriation for such "public" needs as a minister might decide. In practice, almost 100% of this land has been used for building exclusively Jewish settlements and for amenities to support the settlements. Not a single house has been built for an Arab on expropriated land since 1967.

    Amnesty International confirms that an approximately equal number of Jewish structures receive demolition orders each year. But Palestinian homes are typically completely demolished, whereas AI's investigators could not find a single Jewish home that was demolished completely between 1967 and 1999. If a demolition actually takes place, most typically illegal porches, sheds and entryways are destroyed. Deputy Mayor Haim Miller was quoted in 1998 saying, "I don't sign demolition orders for Jewish homes, only for Arabs." (Yediot Acharonot 2/7/98)

    When challenged about this discrepancy today, the Municipality will point out that it did remove (not demolish) an illegally-built prefab synagogue several years ago. Six or seven years ago they did demolish a Jewish-owned restaurant. They also claim that Jews in fact commit fewer serious building violations than do Arab builders. We might remember that the Versailles Wedding Hall, whose collapse killed many in a Jewish neighborhood, was never cited for building violations.

    Israeli policy has aimed actively both to bring more Jews to East Jerusalem and to curtail Arab population growth there. One way to accomplish both aims is by limiting Palestinians' access to housing while expanding the housing stock for Jews. It has been widely documented that an explicit demographic quota system has been in place for Jerusalem at least since 1973, fixing the ratio of Palestinians to Jewish residents. In the most recent Jerusalem master plan currently being prepared, this is again listed as an official policy goal to be achieved via building and zoning regulations.

    Amir Cheshin, who served as Mayor Teddy Kollek's advisor on Arab affairs from 1984 to 1993, writes: "Israel saw the adoption of strict zoning plans as a way of limiting the number of new homes built in Arab neighborhoods, and thereby ensuring that the Arab percentage of the city's population—28.8% in 1967— did not grow beyond this level. Allowing 'too many' new homes in Arab neighborhoods would mean 'too many' Arab residents in the city. The idea was to move as many Jews as possible into East Jerusalem and move as many Arabs as possible out of the city entirely." (Cheshin et al. Separate and Unequal)

    Not according to international law. Israel is a signer of various United Nations international human rights standards which prohibit racial discrimination and require equal protection for all subjects of a government (International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Article 2(1) and others.) Israel's demolition of Arab homes for permit violations (and also for security violations) has been condemned under this Covenant. The Fourth Geneva Convention specifically prohibits destruction of real or personal property by an occupying power. (Article 53.)

    Israeli law is more complex. The separate procedures and regulations for Jewish and Arab housing development in Jerusalem are based on a welter of laws from different periods, including Jordanian law, regulations from the period of the British Mandate and the laws of the State of Israel. Israel's Supreme Court has upheld the policy of allowing Jewish-only neighborhoods, saying that homogenous neighborhoods were "a historic reality in Jerusalem." Cheshin points out, however, that when Jewish activists in groups such as Ateret Cohanim went to purchase homes in the Muslim Quarter of the Old City, the courts looked the other way.

    Source(s): Land has been taken from others DURING A TIME OF WAR-Israel by her own admission, is NOT at war with the Palestinians- SO WHAT IS HER REASON FOR KILLING THEM, STEALING THEIR LAND, and ignoring the world in her expansionistic, terroristic ways(new way for old Irgun(now Likud) to make itself look less evil).
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  • 1 decade ago

    Israel and Justice should never be used in the same sentence.

    The Isnazi's do not take heed from any group, institution or government. They play by their own made up rules and laws. They find ways around existing laws in order to make what they do "legal" although the international community knows better.

    The Israeli's have no compunction about breaking laws and re-writing history. This too shall pass for them. The Palestinians on the other hand have long memories.

    Israel will have to eventually pay the proverbial "fiddler" (not the one on the roof), and when they do it will be a day of infamy.

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  • BMCR
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    1 decade ago

    Will you ignore the facts or will you just use it as another opportunity for yet-another-anti-Israel-talking-point?

    From the CNN Report:

    "Twenty-eight percent of Palestinian homes in the area have been built without permits, which makes them targets for demolition by Israeli authorities, according to the study by the U.N.'s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs."

    and

    "The municipality of Jerusalem disputed the numbers in a news statement but acknowledged that there is a planning crisis all over the city.

    It "is not just in eastern Jerusalem but throughout all of Jerusalem that affects Jews, Christians and Muslims alike," the statement said. "This is a report about the past, while Mayor Nir Barkat is committed to the future and providing a better quality of life for all residents of Jerusalem.""

    and

    "Recent incidents indicate that the Jerusalem municipality will retain and possibly intensify its pace and policy on demolitions, which are conducted by the Israel Defense Forces, the study states.

    But Jerusalem officials said that plans are under way to implement change."

    From http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/01/jerusale...

    And for the record, yes, the UN IS usually worth ignoring.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    no they won't

    the jews are still surfing on that whole holocaust sympathy thing - which they can do until the history channel goes bust or the last victim dies

    oh the zionist will use any disgusting bully boy tactic to get their own way and if anybody dares protest they will trot out the hitler stuff

    look the nazis got their butts kicked 60 years ago it's no excuse to turn into a scum bag quit whinging work with the Palestinians - maybe you both can come up with a final solution to the gaza strip trouble....final solution....sorry my bad

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  • 1 decade ago

    Source: Al Jazeera, hahahaha.

    Check this out

    Here we go again, folks. It’s the UN, those wonderful folks who somehow manage to ignore all sorts of grisly human rights violations all over the world, but are ever watchful for misdeeds in – ta,da! – Israel. This time the UN is bent out of shape over Jerusalem’s enforcement of its municipal building codes that, like ours, require a building permit before construction can proceed. We were surprised to learn that enforcement of local building codes is a matter of interest to the UN. Wow!

    Then there is the matter of house demolition. It’s conceded that East Jerusalem Arabs, have been ignoring the local municipal land-use codes in large numbers, and building without permits whenever it suits them. Their excuse? It’s that lengthy, costly and uncertain process of applying for a building permit, don’t you see, that’s at fault. Can’t expect an Arab would-be builder to put up with all that bureaucratic rigmarole, can you? So they just go ahead and build. What could be wrong with that?

    But that’s not quite all. Those East Jerusalem Arabs claim that local building codes are being enforced “to push them out of East Jerusalem.” Sounds terrible. But is it true? Not a word of it. In the same article, the New York Times lets it be known that in 1967 (when Israel recaptured East Jerusalem in the Six-Day war), the Arab population stood at 66,000. Now it stands at 250,000. That’s an almost four-fold increase. Some “pushing out.” In fact, as the Times notes, there are some 60,000 unpermitted Arab houses in East Jerusalem at this time. Since a house is home to more than one person, ad since Arabs tend to have large families, that means that more than the entire Arab population in 1967 has been added to Jerusalem’s Arab population that is living in unpermitted houses. So if the Israelis are “pushing” the Arabs out of East Jerusalem, they are not doing a very good job of it, are they?

    That leaves one loose end. Is it true that Israel enforces its land-use laws only against Arabs? No, it isn’t. The homes of Jews who build without permits meet the same fate as the Arab ones. See e.g., David Rudge, Ten Illegal Jewish Homes Demolished in Galilee, Jerusalem Post, Nov. 23, 2001.

    Bottom line: when it comes to reportage of events in the Middle East, you can’t rely on the press, not even the prestigious segment of the press like the New York Times, to report truthfully on what is going on over there. So next time you read about Israeli misdeeds, take it with a large grain of salt. Chances are it isn’t true, and it certainly isn’t accurate.

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  • 1 decade ago

    I think they'll take note and that's about as far as it will go.

    Israel is the land for the Jews, no one can take that away from them. Although many nations and millions of men will try, they will fail.

    Perhaps the Israelites will fail in their expansion but the land itself will not.

    Israel is here and no one short of God will be able to take that away from them.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Well we Americans are known for ignoring treaties agreeing not to evict Native Americans from their land...We called it Manifest Destiny....It may be wrong, it may be sad, but it is how every nation on earth gained their territory...

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  • LOL. The criminal U.N. should turn itself in to the Israeli justice system.

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