Creationists, did you know there is evidence of speciation?


New species have arisen in historical times. For example:

•A new species of mosquito, isolated in London's Underground, has speciated from Culex pipiens (Byrne and Nichols 1999; Nuttall 1998).

•Helacyton gartleri is the HeLa cell culture, which evolved from a human cervical carcinoma in 1951. The culture grows indefinitely and has become widespread (Van Valen and Maiorana 1991).

A similar event appears to have happened with dogs relatively recently. Sticker's sarcoma, or canine transmissible venereal tumor, is caused by an organism genetically independent from its hosts but derived from a wolf or dog tumor (Zimmer 2006; Murgia et al. 2006).

•Several new species of plants have arisen via polyploidy (when the chromosome count multiplies by two or more) (de Wet 1971). One example is Primula kewensis (Newton and Pellew 1929).

2.Incipient speciation, where two subspecies interbreed rarely or with only little success, is common. Here are just a few examples:

•Rhagoletis pomonella, the apple maggot fly, is undergoing sympatric speciation. Its native host in North America is Hawthorn (Crataegus spp.), but in the mid-1800s, a new population formed on introduced domestic apples (Malus pumila). The two races are kept partially isolated by natural selection (Filchak et al. 2000).

•The mosquito Anopheles gambiae shows incipient speciation between its populations in northwestern and southeastern Africa (Fanello et al. 2003; Lehmann et al. 2003).

•Silverside fish show incipient speciation between marine and estuarine populations (Beheregaray and Sunnucks 2001).

3.Ring species show the process of speciation in action. In ring species, the species is distributed more or less in a line, such as around the base of a mountain range. Each population is able to breed with its neighboring population, but the populations at the two ends are not able to interbreed. (In a true ring species, those two end populations are adjacent to each other, completing the ring.) Examples of ring species are

•the salamander Ensatina, with seven different subspecies on the west coast of the United States. They form a ring around California's central valley. At the south end, adjacent subspecies klauberi and eschscholtzi do not interbreed (Brown n.d.; Wake 1997).

•greenish warblers (Phylloscopus trochiloides), around the Himalayas. Their behavioral and genetic characteristics change gradually, starting from central Siberia, extending around the Himalayas, and back again, so two forms of the songbird coexist but do not interbreed in that part of their range (Irwin et al. 2001; Whitehouse 2001; Irwin et al. 2005).

•the deer mouse (Peromyces maniculatus), with over fifty subspecies in North America.

•many species of birds, including Parus major and P. minor, Halcyon chloris, Zosterops, Lalage, Pernis, the Larus argentatus group, and Phylloscopus trochiloides (Mayr 1942, 182-183).

•the American bee Hoplitis (Alcidamea) producta (Mayr 1963, 510).

•the subterranean mole rat, Spalax ehrenbergi (Nevo 1999).

4.Evidence of speciation occurs in the form of organisms that exist only in environments that did not exist a few hundreds or thousands of years ago. For example:

•In several Canadian lakes, which originated in the last 10,000 years following the last ice age, stickleback fish have diversified into separate species for shallow and deep water (Schilthuizen 2001, 146-151).

•Cichlids in Lake Malawi and Lake Victoria have diversified into hundreds of species. Parts of Lake Malawi which originated in the nineteenth century have species indigenous to those parts (Schilthuizen 2001, 166-176).

•A Mimulus species adapted for soils high in copper exists only on the tailings of a copper mine that did not exist before 1859 (Macnair 1989).

There is further evidence that speciation can be caused by infection with a symbiont. A Wolbachia bacterium infects and causes postmating reproductive isolation between the wasps Nasonia vitripennis and N. giraulti (Bordenstein and Werren 1997).

Update 2:


Typical Creationist answer.

Plug your ears and run away.

11 Answers

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    They dont care, no amount of irrefutable evidence will convince those morons.

  • 4 years ago

    So what you are saying is that we have fossils that show fish turning into snakes? Is that what you are saying? Because THAT is the gist of evolution. There are NO transitional fossils. The DNA for ALL creatures we see today, were present when created by God. Speciation, my friend, is NOT a new creature- that is evolution. Speciation is what occurs when you have the primary finch. It lives in several areas near to one another. Then can move in and amongst themselves and procreate with each other and all they will produce will be other finches. Then a major cataclysm occurs say the splitting of pangaea in the global flood. As the finches go out and repopulate their specie they get separated. Now the one away from the primary group begins changing. Their calls are different and their feathers change colors. However, because of speciation, one thousand years later the primary finch and the secondary finch can be brought together and they can procreate That is speciation.

  • Sara
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Fascinating facts!

    I don't see any disconnect between belief in a God and science, but I sure can see that you can't just stick to the Adam and Eve story and calculate the Earth's age by genealogy in Bible, or claim that there is no new thing under the Sun.

    When we discovered Evolution, we unraveled another mystery of God's world.

  • IJAH
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    did you know that does not mean god does not exist, do you know that i do not fear death, did you know that every word you humans make up to describe stuff that you really know nothing about does not impress me. Humans are one hour old compared to only one day in god's time we a thousand years as a day and angels the wicked ones laugh and smile at your ignorance because even the demons believe.Its an ease to walk with the lord you are talking disease ha ha demon made word for why we die.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Well, some might dismiss it altogether or they'll say that's not one species or "kind" into another. But still, it IS speciation.

  • Joel V
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    No one ever said there wasn't speciation. Mosquitoes stay mosquitoes. Dogs stay dogs. Cats stay cats. They are all staying withing their kinds, as the Bible says they would. Nothing in the Bible teaches against varieties of the kinds.

  • 1 decade ago

    It doesn't matter creationists will just do this:

  • anon
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    a mosquito is still a mosquito

    a salamander is still a salamander

    a man is still a man

    and a monkey is still a monkey

    'kinds' by an other name remain 'kinds'

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
    Source(s): Aye, there be plenty of it.
  • 1 decade ago


    but what created all these species, what created the first one?

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