Christians, could you respond to something someone said who at least is?

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completely serious, concerned, and utterly opposed to 'religion'?

I'll just summarize although this person actually expressed it much

more forcefully, and well put...even if our views collide, diverge which they do:

The person said the following, in context:

I am utterly serious that the U.S. is in major serious trouble

if we can't find

...here it is... some way to STAMP out religion here.

I'd like you to respond to this in terms of logic, in terms of whether

this is true or not.

(The person said religion causes bloodshed, destruction...and the list went on).

I feel a responsibility not to show the question, have you read what this

person said. 'Love covers a multitude of sins'. So, I've given the gist here.

Your response...that religion must be stamped out for USA to not be ruined?

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  • 8 years ago
    Best Answer

    History shows us that governments that have tried to stamp out religion are usually totalitarian, dictatorial, intolerant and brutal. They certainly do not go along with freedom of speech or freedom of religion. If a government stamps out religion, then it is capable of stamping out anything else it doesn't like. The logical argument is that liberty and freedom benefit everyone and any attempt to stamp out religion denies that basic human right.

    With regard to the suggestion that religion causes bloodshed and destruction, history shows us that is not actually true. Check out these genocides in the 20th century and see how many were the direct result of religion:

    Mao Ze-Dong (China between 1958 and 1969 and Tibet between 1949 and 1950)

    Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-1939 - the purges and Ukraine's famine)

    Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945 - concentration camps and civilian deaths)

    Leopold II of Belgium (Congo 1886-1908)

    Hideki Tojo (Japan 1941-1944 - civilian deaths)

    Ismail Enver (Turkey 1915-1920 - deaths of Armenians, Greek Pontians, Anatolian Greeks, Assyrians)

    Pol Pot (Cambodia 1975-1979)

    Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-1994 - purges and concentration camps)

    Menghistu (Ethiopia 1975-1978)

    Yakubu Gowon (Biafra 1967-1970)

    Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan 1979-1982)

    Not to mention Jean Kambanda (Rwanda), Suharto (East Timor, West Papua), Saddam Hussein (Iran and Kurdistan), Tito (Yugoslavia), Fumimaro Konoe (Japan), Jonas Savimbi (Angola), Mullah Omar, Taliban (Afghanistan), Idi Amin (Uganda) and others. How quickly we forget the genocides and mass murders committed in the name of power, greed and secularism.

    Please note that Hitler did not instigate the second world war because of religious differences between Christianity and Judaism. Hitler was a megalomaniac who wanted world domination. He was motivated purely by lust for power. An objective study of the facts might suggest to someone without a bias that the motivation for wars is greed and power.

    And the recent civilian uprisings in countries like Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Bahrain and Syria are not about religion but about suffering caused by dictators and power-crazed despots.

    Findings of BBC commission to Department of Peace Studies at Bradford University U.K. (2010): “We concluded that there have been few genuinely religious wars in the last 100 years…” Some wars “often painted in the media and other places as wars over religion, or wars arising from religious differences, have in fact been wars of nationalism, liberation of territory or self-defence.”

  • Cindy
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Well, in fact, we would be a lot better off without what I would call religion, which includes communism, socialism, Darwinism, evangelical atheism, etc., and yes, institutional Christianity. But we can't stamp it out. All the nations are coming to an end. We as a people (that is, the church) need to mind that we are obedient to our Head (Jesus) and leave aside religion and politics and all the other trappings of this world and live only unto Him in harmony and love with our brothers and sisters and toward the lost.

  • Not "stamped" out. But we Christians need to take responsibility for the damage some of our brothers and sisters have done. When you have radical anti-gay activists, claiming to be Christians, working to indoctrinate school children and normalize the idea that we simply pop into a voting booth and vote away the civil rights of those we dislike or disagree with, something is wrong. Such an idea is unamercan and unchristian and those who refuse to speak out against this sin are condoning it.

  • Why so surprised? The Bible tells us this will happen. And worse. Brother against brother.

    If there is so much bloodshed with religion, what then would it be without region?

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    This is another emotional "Blame Game" its always been around. There have been countries to use religion to spread their brutal belief and to gain power. All in all religion has done good in the world to. The reason they want it out is because it will , they think, rid them of Jesus Christ, this is what it is about anyway. They want to bring the good moral people down to their level. Jesus said, they hated me and they will hate you. Just my thoughts.

    God Bless

  • 8 years ago

    Did you know that bible prophecy says that religion will indeed be stamped out in the USA and all over the world and that this is God's will?

    The prophecy is the destruction of what revelation calls BABYLON THE GREAT (false religion) and Jehovah's Witnesses will explain more.

    False religion does indeed have its hands full of bloodshed and lies and anyone still associated with her will be held accountable to God Almighty - plese read Revelation 18:4

  • 8 years ago

    Blessings to All. The restored image and likeness of God.

    The three Persons of the Trinity said:

    "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"

    (Genesis 1:26).

    And so they did make man in the image and likeness of God. But man rebelled against God and sinned. This ruined the image of God within him, and also within all of his offspring and posterity. You can see the proof of this every day in the newspaper. You can see the proof of this every day on your college campus. You can see the proof of this every day in your own family - if you are not from this church. The proof of the ruined image of God in totally depraved man is all around us - all the time!

    But God loved ruined mankind. That's why God sent His Son, Jesus, to die on the Cross - to pay the penalty for your sins. That's why Jesus rose from the dead and ascended up into Heaven, where He is now seated on the right hand of God. Jesus can bring you back to God and restore the broken and ruined image of God within you.

    This restoration comes about through an experience that the Bible calls "conversion." Jesus said:

    "Except ye be converted…ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 18:3).

    Conversion usually happens like this. First, you are awakened. You see that the world is false and hopeless. You come to church. You see that it is right to be in church every Sunday. And you begin to think there is a Hell to avoid and a Heaven to gain. You begin to think about Jesus Christ sometimes. That is the beginning of awakening.

    Second, you become convinced of your sin. This may not happen for a long, long time - although it may happen quite suddenly. You become convinced that you have sinned. This troubles you deeply. You also become convinced that you have a sinful, ruined nature - such as I described in this sermon. You heard it all before, but now you become convinced that it is true. This makes you give up all hope of saving yourself.

    Third, after many dodges and attempts to save yourself, you finally see that it is no use. Then, and only then, will you rest on Jesus and be saved by Him alone - without works!

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9).

    At that point, you are converted and the spiritual image of God is restored within you. That's why Jesus said:

    "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3).

    It doesn't just mean in the future. It means right now. Unless you are converted and born again, you cannot see the kingdom of God. You must be born again for the image of God to be restored. Then you will see the reality of God and His Kingdom. That's why Christ said, "Ye must be born again" (John 3:7).

  • 8 years ago

    If there was no religion they would blame it on something else. Religion is there scape goat. And without religion some of societies morals wouldn't be around because our culture has excepted/adapted to some religious morals. so there could possible be more destruction.

    Source(s): Don't let them full you. Every one has an excuse for everything. Every blames everything but them selves.
  • 8 years ago

    my response would be, "no, ignorance must be stamped out-and no group has a monopoly on,or an overwhelming scarcity of, ignorance"

  • This country was founded by deists and has remained around all this time with religion around...How does this person KNOW that this country won't last with religion. It has done so since 1776 just fine haha...

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