The nomenclature of climate science?
I recall a question around here a day or two ago which asked about the dihydrogen monoxide petition. Several of the answers pointed out that a chemist would never use that expression (even though it is technically correct). But it is true that nobody would use that term in a scientific setting.
This got me thinking about another term: forcing. Of course you hear this term all the time around here and throughout most climate studies and the IPCC reports. And people who use this term may be the same as those who dislike the alternative H2O term. And they're the type to mention Laws of Thermodynamics and what the physics tells us about CO2 and radiative forcings, etc.
Well, I have a challenge for you. Other than in climate science, find examples in physics where the term "forcing" is used. You can start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forcing
I see climate science is in there twice. So is magic. But nothing about physics. Good luck all. I await some awesome answers.
@Baccheus: Thanks, that has the makings of an awesome answer.
Unfortunately I don't have the time right now to dig into that in detail. The few I did take a cursory look at were related to mathematics. And since electrical engineering is my field I looked into the electromagnetic forcing device. I found the paper here: http://126.96.36.199/bitstream/handle/2027.42/43...
My initial reaction is that none of these are related to physics and the natural world. It's unfortunate that YA seem to cut off your physics examples as those would have been good to look at. Maybe you could fix that?
It would be great to see an example the\at involves thermodynamics in a natural scenario.
- BaccheusLv 78 years agoFavorite Answer
It is a common term in physics, engineering and related sciences. I suppose there is a decent synonym but I don't know one commonly used.
http://www.springerprofessional.de/s pmblob/1754606/bodyRef/058--- incompressible-flow-simulations-using-virtual-boundary-method-with -new-direct-forcing-terms- estimation.pdf
uni-muenster.de/imperia/md/ content/physik_ap/denz/ publikationen/2005/2005_25.pdf
papers.ssrn.com/ sol3/papers.cfm? abstract_id=2231613
I very quickly found more uses than I can link here. Copy paste and remove spaces to link.
Thermodynamics in a natural scenario (without going to climate). Copy paste and remove spaces to link.
dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/ handle/1721.1/ 54264/07210031.pdf?sequence=1
- KoshkaLv 58 years ago
Since when does quantites given in w/m^2 not physical quantities?
It would be nice to hear Paul's Alias say something like: "people that do not understand what differential equations are can be fooled by this kind of question" Or something like that =)
- KanoLv 78 years ago
Another interesting question, well done Mike, but I am not going to waste time searching, just suffice to say in thirty years of power station experience, I never heard that expression used.
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- JimZLv 78 years ago
That is a tough one. You can find millions of hits relating physics and force but forcing is much harder, particularly in the definition of climate scientists. It appears that maybe climate scientists are "forcing" their word into the nomenclature of physics.
I have an engineering degree and forcing isn't something we spent much time on. In geology, we dealt more with forces in stresses, strains, and strength of materials. Forcing is more abstract and may be more common in modelling IMO.
- 8 years ago
Where is Paul's Alias wehen you need him ... ?