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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 6 years ago

Why can't 'christians' provide tangible, verifiable evidence to substantiate their?

extraordinary claims about the so-called 'resurrection' of 'jesus'?

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  • YY4Me
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    6 years ago
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    Christians often mention historians, but fail to note that none of them were alive at the time Jesus purportedly lived. There was not one word written about Jesus during his purported lifetime, not one word written by an eyewitness. It's all hearsay. Here's a list of the historians I've seen christians refer to, and their year of birth, where known.

    Historians:

    Josephus b. 37 CE; Tacitus b. 56 CE; Pliny the Younger b. 61 CE; Suetonius b. 69/75 CE; Lucian of Samosata b. 125 CE; Celsus b. 2nd cent. CE; Phlegon of Tralles b. 2nd cent. CE; Thallus, nothing until the late 2nd cent. CE; Mara Bar-Serapion's letter was composed between 73 CE and the 3rd century.

    The Talmud?

    Did a historical Jesus exist?

    http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

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    Talmud: Amazingly some Christians use brief portions of the Talmud, (a collection of Jewish civil a religious law, including commentaries on the Torah), as evidence for Jesus. They claim that Yeshu in the Talmud refers to Jesus. However, this Yeshu, according to scholars depicts a disciple of Jehoshua Ben-Perachia at least a century before the alleged Christian Jesus or it may refer to Yeshu ben Pandera, a teacher of the 2nd centuy CE. Regardless of how one interprets this, the Palestinian Talmud didn't come into existence until the 3rd and 5th century C.E., and the Babylonian Talmud between the 3rd and 6th century C.E., at least two centuries after the alleged crucifixion. At best it can only serve as a controversial Christian or Jewish legend; it cannot possibly serve as evidence for a historical Jesus.

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  • 6 years ago

    Why do some 'non-Christians' insist on adding redundant caveats to their requests for evidence?

    Why should we feel obligated to provide more than just evidence of our position?

    All evidence is "tangible, verifiable" - or do you mean tangible verification of the claim. Requesting tangible verification of a supernatural claim is fundamentally irrational. The reason we cannot provide tangible verification for a supernatural claim is because the claim is supernatural - and therefore, by definition, not tangible. So the request is either logically redundant, or lacks logical self-consistency.

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  • 6 years ago

    As in like eons of Godly wisdom that you and all others use to create, discover, implement, grow, and live in a relatively peaceful harmonious world?

    Lets say we put our fate in the hands of a video game generation who think dying just means game over, reset.

    There's serious adult stuff going on here, and we use Christs Love as a foundation. Anyone with a problem with that should take a look in the mirror.

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  • 6 years ago

    There are now more than 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Add over 10,000 Latin Vulgate and at least 9,300 other early versions (MSS) and we have more than 24,000 manuscript copies of portions of the New Testament. This means that no other document of antiquity even begins to approach such numbers and attestation. In comparison, the Iliad by Homer is second with only 643 manuscripts that still survive. The first complete preserved text of Homer dates from the 13th century.74

    This contrast is startling and tremendously significant.

    Perhaps we can appreciate how wealthy the New Testament is in manuscript attestation if we compare the textual material for other ancient historical works. For Caesar’s Gallic War (composed between 58 and 50 B.C) there are several extant MSS, but only nine or ten are good, and the oldest is some 900 years later than Caesar’s day. Of the 142 books of the Roman history of Livy (59 B.C-A.D 17), only 35 survive; these are known to us from not more than twenty MSS of any consequence, only one of which, and that containing fragments of Books III-VI, is as old as the fourth century. Of the fourteen books of Histories of Tacitus (c. A.D. 100) only four and a half survive; of the sixteen books of his Annals, ten survive in full and two in part. The text of these extant portions of his two great historical works depends entirely on two MSS, one of the ninth century and one of the eleventh.… The History of Thucydides (c. 460-400 B.C.) is known to us from eight MSS, the earliest belonging to about the beginning of the Christian era. The same is true of the History of Herodotus (c. 480-425 B.C.). Yet no classical scholar would listen to an argument that the authenticity of Herodotus or Thucydides is in doubt because the earliest MSS of their works which are of any use are over 1,300 years later than the originals.75

    The fact of the many documents plus the fact that many of the New Testament documents are very early (hundreds of parchment copies from the 4th and 5th centuries with some seventy-five papyri fragments dating from A.D. 135 to the 8th century) assures us we have a very accurate and reliable text in the New Testament.

    In the New Testament we find that it is recorded that over 500 people testified to seeing the risen Christ after His death on the cross. These people had no reason to flippantly testify to this matter due to the fact that they could be killed for it. We also see this same matter testified to by each of the apostles of whom 11 of the 12 died a martyrs death for this witness. So based on the preservation of New Testament documents and the records held within them it is quite apparent that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, that is if you aren't suppressing the fact that God exist and does have the power to raise people from the dead...

    Romans chapter one states that unbelievers "Surpress the truth in unrighteousness (God has made it plain to everyone He is real)." So in order to come to terms with this "surpressed truth" and confess the truth it takes a work of God's grace. I do pray that God will do a work of grace in your heart so that you can acknowledge Him as Lord!

    Source(s): God Bless
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  • 6 years ago

    You have to let yourself be enchanted enough to see Jesus as a Cornerstone in your life to be able to understand and see it. With that anything is proof enough and you are able to go on from there. If that does not relate then perhaps no such a thing will ever be produced and you should just not teach what you don't know or don't understand. There is plenty out there in this modern world to keep anyone busy. Religion or God does not have to be one of those things like it did a long time ago. One is not going to hell because he or she does not get it.

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  • 6 years ago

    From an atheist:

    The beauty of christianity is that it prompts people to believe in things without proof, to have faith that, in people's most difficult struggles, there's a higher force to help them. If there was solid evidence of the "resurrection of jesus", it would ruin the point of having faith, having comfort in God when life seems absolutely hopeless.

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  • 6 years ago

    We have multiple eye witness accounts that say it happened. Those eye witnesses were willing to risk their lives and give up their lives rather than deny what they said was true. They wrote down their accounts and shared them with many others. These written documents constitute evidence.

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  • 6 years ago

    How about any of their claims regarding Jesus?!?!

    The "Virgin Birth" - still waiting on evidence of that one!

    Raising Lazarus - yep, still no evidence there!

    Healing the blind, and the lepers - no evidence still!

    Feeding hundreds with enough food for 2 - evidence still missing!

    Hell, we still don't have the evidence to prove he was an "average carpenter"!

    Source(s): Atheist
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  • Rocky
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    You being a non-believer ask for physical evidence--to find Jesus look into the spirit--God said if you seek him you will surely find him. Jesus is the same--seek and you will find. No other way.

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  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    The resurrection of Jesus in the bible, since god is real he wouldn't lie, but this takes to had god wrote the bible we have now or was it just a human.

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