If the Nazis were "nationalists" why didn't they stay within their boarders?

Why did they want a global empire through socialism like today's progressives also do?

They wanted a complete totalitarian socialist world government just like today's socialists do. Is it ignorant of today's social fascists to call Nazism a phenomenon of the "right"? Both Nazis and progressivists call themselves "Third-way" moderates and in their nearly identical concepts of mixed-economy socialism... they are part way between Communistic socialism and free market capitalism.

Wouldn't it be honest if they just took full responsibility for what their National Socialist brethren did and admit that their current anti-Zionism and hatred of Jews stems from that same source?


@for the historically ignorant ~ Fascism IS a form of socialism. It is THEE form of socialism and communists rightly branded one another "fascists" whenever they disagreed with each other because there it so little difference between "fascist socialism" and "communistic socialism" in practice as to make any ideological minutia negligible.

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  • 7 years ago
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    There was a strong Progressive movement in the early to mid 20th century in the US. They engaged in eugenics here and this is where Hitler got his ideas about the Aryan society. Hitler admired the US Progressives and Hitler was admired by the US for his success in turning the German economy around at least until he decided to engage in aggressive imperialism.

    "After the eugenics movement was well established in the United States, it was spread to Germany. California eugenicists began producing literature promoting eugenics and sterilization and sending it overseas to German scientists and medical professionals.[4] By 1933, California had subjected more people to forceful sterilization than all other U.S. states combined. The forced sterilization program engineered by the Nazis was partly inspired by California's.[5]

    The Rockefeller Foundation helped develop and fund various German eugenics programs, including the one that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.[4][6]

    Upon returning from Germany in 1934, where more than 5,000 people per month were being forcibly sterilized, the California eugenics leader C. M. Goethe bragged to a colleague:

    "You will be interested to know that your work has played a powerful part in shaping the opinions of the group of intellectuals who are behind Hitler in this epoch-making program. Everywhere I sensed that their opinions have been tremendously stimulated by American thought . . . I want you, my dear friend, to carry this thought with you for the rest of your life, that you have really jolted into action a great government of 60 million people."[7]


    This has a lot to do with the acceptance of Darwin's theories. Any form of collectivism which requires a very strong central government has little regard for individuals on any level. Its all based on what is good for the "state" in the end even though the original appeal is a better life for "all".

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    It's all apart of the plan.

    "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm. The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agentur of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other." - quote in a letter written by Albert Pike written to Giuseppe Mazzini discovered by William Guy Carr.

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    It's rather simple actually. Nationalism and imperialism are not incompatible with each other. The Third Reich wanted the whole world to belong to the Germans. Thus, the only way they could feed their military machine was to enslave other nations.

    The rest of your additional "details" have nothing to do with your question.

  • 7 years ago

    That was just Another excuse for instituting Tyranny.

    All Big Government Power leads to Tyranny. The only difference is the pathway chosen.

    America's Founding Fathers knew that Fat LONG ago. That is why the Constitution Limits the power of Government. Still, Marxists and Despots of all sorts still think they have their totalitarinaism and Liberty too.


    In their systems, Liberty is only for the Elites.

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  • 7 years ago

    The top Nazi leadership didn't plan to stay within Germany's borders (note the lack of an "a" in the word) because they planned to depopulate eastern Europe and resettle it with German people. Speer had some rather detailed plans for razing Moscow, for instance.

  • 7 years ago

    Ironically (the world and its history are full of ironies) the Nazis adopted Jews' type of "Hebrew nation" chauvinism. According to Torah Moses created a Hebrew nation from Semitic Canaanite tribes descended from "Israel" (Jacob). HIs Mosaic laws formed one of the earlier civilizations whose ethics are foundations of modern western civilization.

    Hitler and Himmler through the National Socialist German Workers' Party enhanced (I believe) Bismarck's mystique of a German nation formed from a looser Confederation of German States (older principalities). The irony is they wanted to form, and did, the kind of national spirit Moses had initiated among his Hebrew tribes thousands of years before.

    Once that national spirit was instilled in the Germanic principalities the economic destruction from nearly universal overpopulation gave a good excuse, even reason, to evict all "non-Germans" from German territories. Again ironically, the Jewish nation typically keeping itself isolated from its host nations, was better assimilated in Germany than other places in Europe.

    That didn't save them from being high on the list for eviction from German territory. When the Nazis found they couldn't get rid of all of them by intimidation they enslaved them and ultimately slaughtered them along with a similar number of other "inferior" (according to Nazis) people.

    What began as an again necessary -- as it had been necessary around the world many times when populations began to exceed their lands' ability to support them at contemporary technology levels -- conquest for land and resources took on its own life. Like so many times before -- with the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Mongols, Turks, French, and British -- once advanced weapons and tactics easily conquered immediate objectives the victors said: "That was so easy lets take everything we can!"

    So arrogantly failing to learn from Napoleon's blunders, Hitler repeated them almost exactly.

    PS: "Nation" here means the true nation of related people, not the modern inaccurate use as a substitute for "country."

    Source(s): For decades I studied philosophies, cultures, and social institutions. I began that because of confusion resulting from my military experience under the shadow of neo-Marxist anti-military and anti-capitalism indoctrination in the universities. I continue a forty year quest wading through the huge pile of stinking crap a wide variety of bigots dumped on top of truth hiding it from nearly everyone's view. The pile was made by blaming people or practices they don't like while excusing people or practices they do like regardless of where the fault really lies.
  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    They were imperialists.

    Hitler wanted an empire like his hero's Barbarossa and Frederick the Great.

    Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere. (p. 32)

    The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State. (p. 41).

    —Benito Mussolini, 1935, "The Doctrine of Fascism", Firenze: Vallecchi Editore.

    Source(s): Fascists are corporatists.
  • 7 years ago

    Nationalism doesn't mean isolationism. Militant nationalism is a system that believes that the people of that nation are entitled to the entire planet.

  • 7 years ago

    Listen to me; this is important: get your TV remote. Turn OFF Fox News. Do not look at it again. There may be time to reverse the brain damage, but it won't be easy.

    And, BTW, you mean "borders," unless you're talking about being within people living in a boarding house.

    Hondo is right: the Nazis were fascists, not socialists. Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

    Edit: If you were really so smart, you'd at least know how to spell.

  • Socialists lie about everything.

    Just like Obama...

    The lesson of the Holocaust is lost if we deny the truth of who caused it.

    The Holocaust was caused by socialism.

    To deny that is denying the truth of the Holocaust.

    People who say Hitler was right wing are Holocaust deniers, because they deny the truth of the Holocaust.

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