who are the Palestinians ?
well I have asked this question maybe but I read about them and they have many things in common with the jewish people in Israel, so I might think the Palestinians were jewish who converted to Christianity and later to islam and they adopted Arabic language but then how do Christians in the holy land are considered descedants of the byzantines and today they speak Arabic and they don't speak greek because greek was the language of the orthodox church during the byzantine empire?
- saggiLv 77 years ago
Palestinians are a made-up nation who are refugees (second and third generation) of lost wars from both 1948 and 1967. Palestine is not a word in Arabic, and neither were those philistines who lived here in biblical times. Even if their fairy tales are true, it still doesn't excuse their violence. These savages have nothing in common with us. They live under a warped 7th century ideology with poor infrastructure and target women and children while using their own ones as shields and they dare to present us as the oppressors. The only reason that we "oppress" them is be cause these aren't the kind of folks that make due with what we give them. They constantly try to leave us with the raw end of every deal because they won't settle for anything less than all there is. It even got to the point where they broke down and said so explicitly.
- 7 years ago
"According to historical records part, or perhaps the majority,
of the Moslem Arabs in this country descended
from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who
had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh
century AD (Shaban 1971; Mc Graw Donner 1981).
These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the
core population that had lived in the area for several centuries,
some even since prehistorical times"
I don't know where you get your opinion that there were nearly no Arabs in early 20th century Palestine, Shay. All the sources say that Palestinian Arabs were several times more numerous than Jews at that time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Pales...
And who is mordechai ben tziyyon whose page you've pasted - he claims to be a prof at Hebrew University. It seems hard to find his official university homepage at Hebrew University though
- pendletonLv 67 years ago
The Palestinians are migrant workers who moved into the territory after 1870 when the Jews started to develop the area and created industrial and agricultural jobs.
They moved to Palestine primarily from: Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Iraq.
Few Arabs lived in the land prior to that, those were descendant of bedouins, crusaders, and other nations of the region.
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- MELv 57 years ago
The original Palestinians were Greeks who conquered Gaza from the Canaanites. After the Assyrian invasion, they left. When Jews were allowed to return after the Persians conquered Assyria, they found only a few elderly Palestinians left. It is assumed they fled to Egypt.
The Romans named the region Palestine(Jews say to mock the Jews, Roman records say to honor the Greek heritage of the land as the Roman Empire was heavily influenced by Greek culture) and the name stuck for over 2000 years.
The Palestinians of today come from diverse origins much like the Jews. Most are descendants of Jews who converted to Christianity and Islam. Israel found that 68% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza have a Jewish ancestor. But the Palestinian diaspora it is unknown. This has lead to 3 Israeli organizations to be formed purely with the intention of getting Palestinians to convert to Judaism which isn't a very popular idea in Israel, even if only those who are halachally Jewish are sought after.
- Anonymous7 years ago
Salam, Super star:)
well it took me a lot of time to find a good answer for you....i was looking for any article for Mr. Raghib Al-serjani.....i trust in his words not coz he is a muslim but because he is an honest and fair researcher.
- 7 years ago
'Palestinians' are Arab-speaking people that were living in the present state of Israel before its 1947 formation. It's a false term, because Hebrew-speaking people living in the same land at the same time are not considered 'Palestinian' by the looney-left and the fascist-right.
- trancinguyLv 77 years ago
They became Muslims when Omar bin Alkhattab came.
- Kevin7Lv 77 years ago
Jews were the first Palestinians ,it was a term first coined by theRomans to deny the Jewish heritage of Israel
- Shay pLv 77 years ago
At the beginning of the 20th century, there were almost no Arabs in Israél. In contrast Hebrews (or "Jews"), despite 2000 years of persecution and forced conversions by various conquerors, have always made up the majority of the population here. Only about 5,000 Arabs resided here when the British military forces, commanded by General Allenby, conquered "Palestine" in 1917/18; the other Moslems livng in the area either came from Turkey under the Ottoman Empire, or were the descendants of Hebrews and christians who were forcefully converted to Islam by the Moslem conquerors. None of these other Moslems were of Arabic origin.
The local inhabitants at that time did not call themselves "Palestinians". The concept of a "Palestinian" to describe the local residents has not yet been invented; neither was there ever in history a "Palestinian Arab" nation. None of today's Arabs have any ancestral relationship to the original Biblical P'lishtians ("Philistines") who are now extinct. Even Arab historians have admitted that "Palestine" never existed:
In 1937, the Arab leader Auni Bey Abdul Hadi told the Peel Commission: "There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a term the Zionists invented. Palestine is alien to us."
In 1946, Princeton's Arab professor of Middle East history, Philip Hitti, told the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry: "It's common knowledge, there is no such thing as Palestine in history."
In March 1977, Zahir Muhsein, an executive member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization ("P.L.O."), said in an interview to the Dutch newspaper Trouw: "The 'Palestinian people' does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Yisraél."
Mark Twain (real name Samuel Langhorne Clemens, the famous author of "Tom Sawyer" and its sequel "Huckleberry Finn") toured Eretz Yisraél in 1867. This is how he described it: "A desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds. A silent, mournful expanse. We never saw a human being on the whole route. There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."
In 1874, Reverend Samuel Manning wrote: "...But where were the inhabitants? This fertile plain, which might support an immense population, is almost a solitude... Day by day we were to learn afresh the lesson now forced upon us, that the denunciations of ancient prophecy have been fulfilled to the very letter: 'the land is left void and desolate and without inhabitants'."
In a report to the Palestinian Royal Commission (set up by the British authorities), there is an account of the conditions on the coastal plain along the Mediterranean Sea in 1913 (which was before the outbreak of hostilities in the First World War):
"The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track, suitable for transport by camels or carts. No orange groves, orchards or vineyards were to be seen until one reached the [Jewish] Yabna village. Houses were mud. Schools did not exist. The western part toward the sea was almost a desert. The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many villages were deserted by their inhabitants."
The Arabs who now claim to be natives of Eretz Yisraél migrated to "Palestine" after 1918 from neighbouring Arab countries, predominantly from the areas that now comprise Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. None of these existed as independent countries prior to 1913. They were nothing but a disorganised collection of tribes, constantly terrorising each other and trying to seize land from their neighbours. Unfortunately, those Arab immigrants imported their age-old culture of terrorising neighbours to seize land into Eretz Yisraél. Many of them were social outcasts and criminals who couldn't find jobs in their own countries so they searched for their luck elsewhere. Some of them were accepted by the British regime as a source of cheap labour and were allowed to settle on unoccupied Hebrew land in Eretz Yisraél. Even Yassir Ara'fat, the leader of the P.L.O., is not a native of Eretz Yisraél: he was born in 1929 in Cairo, Egypt, served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956. He then moved to Saudi-Arabia and, in 1958, together with his Saudi-Arabian friends, founded the Al-Fatah terror organisation (precursor to the P.L.O.) in Kuwait.
Lewis French, the British Director of Development wrote about the Arabs in Eretz Yisraél:
"We found it inhabited by fellahin [Arab farmers] who lived in mud hovels and suffered severely from the prevalent malaria... Large areas were uncultivated... The fellahin, if not themselves cattle thieves, were always ready to harbour these and other criminals. The individual plots changed hands annually. There was little public security, and the fellahin's lot was an alternation of pillage and blackmail by their neighbours, the Bedouin [Arab nomads]."
The governor of the Syrian district of Hauran [the Biblical Ḥaran], Tewfik Bey El Hurani, admitted in 1934 that in a single period of only a few months over 30,000 Syrians from Hauran had moved to Palestine. Even British Prime Minister Winston Churchill noted the Arab influx. Churchill, a veteran of the early years of the British mandate in Eretz Yisraél, commented in 1939 that
"....far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied."
All four of my grandparents and also both of my parents were born in israél in the 19th century. They saw with their own eyes how empty the land was at that time and they all frequently spoke about it during my childhood. They also lived through the British conquest and experienced first-hand the Arab immigration that followed, as did I. That wave of Arab immigration continued, unabated, right up to the British evacuation and the creation of the State of Yisraél in May of 1948.