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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentGovernment · 2 years ago

Why do liberals deny these facts about labor unions?

when the nazis came to power in germany in 1933 the absolute first thing they did was to get rid of all independent trade unions. their leaders were arrested, their assets were liquidated, their headquarters seized and destroyed. the right to strike as well as collective bargaining was lost overnight.

without labor unions impeding economic progress, germany was the first country to pull itself of the great depression and outpaced the united states and all other european states in job creation, and growth from 1933-to 1939.

anyways how powerful are labor unions in your country and would you ever join one?

as for myself, I wouldn't ever become a union thug rat because I'm a software developer for google.

12 Answers

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    I support labor unions.

    It was not labor unions that impeded economic progress, Germany used deficit spending and slave labor to build it's economy.

    When Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany in 1933, he introduced policies aimed at improving the economy. The changes included privatization of state industries, autarky, and tariffs on imports. Although weekly earnings increased by 19% in real terms[2] in the period between 1932-38, average working hours had also risen to approximately 60 per week by 1939. Furthermore, reduced foreign trade meant rationing in consumer goods like poultry, fruit, and clothing for many Germans.[3]

    The Nazis believed in war as the primary engine of human progress, and argued that the purpose of a country’s economy should be to enable that country to fight and win wars of expansion.[4] As such, almost immediately after coming to power, they embarked on a vast program of military rearmament, which quickly dwarfed civilian investment.[5] During the 1930s, Nazi Germany increased its military spending faster than any other state in peacetime,[6] and the military eventually came to represent the majority of the German economy in the 1940s.[7] This was funded mainly through deficit financing before the war, and the Nazis expected to cover their debt by plundering the wealth of conquered nations during and after the war.[8] Such plunder did occur, but its results fell far short of Nazi expectations.[9]

    The Nazi government developed a partnership with leading German business interests, who supported the goals of the regime and its war effort in exchange for advantageous contracts, subsidies, and the suppression of the trade union movement.[10] Cartels and monopolies were encouraged at the expense of small businesses, even though the Nazis had received considerable electoral support from small business owners.[11]

    Nazi Germany maintained a supply of slave labour, composed of prisoners and concentration camp inmates, which was greatly expanded after the beginning of World War II. In Poland alone, some 5 million citizens (including Polish Jews) were used as slave labour throughout the war.[12] Among the slave labourers in the occupied territories, hundreds of thousands were used by leading German corporations including Thyssen, Krupp, IG Farben, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Daimler-Benz, Demag, Henschel, Junkers, Messerschmitt, Siemens, and Volkswagen, as well as Dutch corporation Philips.[13] By 1944, slave labour made up one quarter of Germany's entire work force, and the majority of German factories had a contingent of prisoners.[14]

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    when you're at lunch in the cafeteria at school do the cool kids call you "dinglewood?"

  • ?
    Lv 6
    2 years ago

    You are about is wrong as you can be.

  • 2 years ago

    The use of only "liberals" in your question shows a hidden agenda on your part that falls into the anti-democracy plans of the right-wing domestic terrorists named in Jane Mayer's well-researched slightly scary book, "DARK MONEY: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right" (2017), so perhaps you would benefit from learning the scholarly definition of LIBERALISM here in the U.S. before we move on to discuss the freedom to assemble and the right to be represented for all Americans.

    From "Lecture At Yale University": "By liberalism I don't mean the creed of any party or any century. I mean a generosity of spirit, an effort to comprehend otherness, a high ideal for the dignity and value of humanity, a commitment to the rule of law, a repugnance for authoritarianism, and a love of freedom."

    The "repugnance for authoritarianism" is a key to comprehending why we, the people, prefer to have union representation to act on our behalf during contract talks with profit-lusting, absolute-power-seeking would-be plutocrats in management who prefer slave labor to "expand profit margins."

    The scripted firing of PATCO by an Alzheimer's-afflicted (out of his gourd) Ronald Reagan in 1988 declared all-out WAR on America's full-time workers, especially if those workers had benefits such as overtime pay, paid vacations, a vested pension plan, and employer-provided health care. Read for yourself the damages done to our nation because of the Nazi-like GOP/Koch bullies' anti-democracy policies: "America, What Went Wrong?" by Donald Bartlett and James Steele (1991), available on This one corporate-colluding bad act of firing the air traffic controllers (PATCO) unleashed what First Lady Hillary Clinton corrected called the "Era of [Corporate] Greed"---a time when the CEO of McDonald's makes $2,000 PER MINUTE while paying his workers---the workers whose labors generate the profits this CEO corporate raids into his own pockets---$7.35 per hour...not enough to live on. If this CEO and other Koch-like CEOs with bottomless-pit GREED as their guide could have their spoiled-brat GOP-allowed deregulated way, they would pay NOTHING to the workers, which is why in the wake of the Reagan puppeteers' firing of PATCO the GOP-condoned OUTSOURCING of our manufacturing jobs became the new Republican "norm"---all to "expand profit margins," of course.

    As a former LABOR ADVOCATE during those dark days for our nation's workers, unions came under attack and I worked to help them counter management cruelties. One mistake the national union leaders made, in my opinion, was that they DID NOT GO INTERNATIONAL and set up union shops in the Third World countries to which the greedy-gut CEOs were outsourcing! In INDIA, for example, workers get paid only $200 PER YEAR, with no benefits at all and no OSHA rules to make for safe working conditions. If any nation needed unions, INDIA would be at the top of the list.

    Are you trying to peddle the dopey idea that Americans should NOT have a representative democracy republic? We aren't buying what you are selling, leveret.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Slave labor can be very efficient, as long as you can keep replacing the slaves you work to death.

  • 2 years ago

    Hitler borrowed far more than Germany could pay back without going into another severe recession, that's how he pulled Germany out of the Great Depression. He then cancelled all the debts once he went to war.

    Not a great economic strategy to emulate

  • martin
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Labor unions came into being when the industrial age saw employer tactics that were so unfair that most people favored the unions to protect the workers. But racketeering crept into the unions and they became corrupt. If unions stick to the rules of bargaining and don't abuse and misuse those rules, unions would be fine.

  • 2 years ago

    Wait wait wait.... are you seriously arguing against labor unions because you believe in redistribution of wealth?

    >I'm a software developer for google.

    lol, sure you are, buddy. I bet you can't even name the building you work in.

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    Easy. Germany became a war economy as the Nazis rebuilt the military (before killing millions of people, of course)

  • So basically, you're for a government that seizes the assets of private citizens and spends massive amounts on government works projects in order to get out of a depression.

    And you hate people in unions.

    "Nazi punks, **** off."- Jello Biafra.

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