Explain to me what is essentially being fought over by Israelis and Palestinians, and who do you think has a more legitimate claim.?
- 2 weeks ago
the land is for everybody not for Palestinians for sure neither for Israelis.
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- LarryLv 42 weeks ago
Israel's are fighting for freedom of their chosen land. Palestinians are fighting for their perceived position of wanting their land back. It's never going to happen that way. The Jews that arrived to Israel after the Holocaust and their post-holocaust children Grandchildren and current born modern day Israeli born Jews made the country that it has become since 1948. Sadly the Palestinians didn't do much to help the country grow, or make it become almost American like. unknown to too many people, the Israels actually do support the Palestinians and want them to have their own country, just not in Israel.
- 1 month ago
Not Arabs own Israel, Not because I am Jew, but it is a FACT.. Mecca is for Arabs, Not Jerusalem. I am sure even Arabs know or some of them confess...
- Anonymous1 month ago
What's going on between Israelis and Palestinians doesn't matter. Don't get me wrong - what they're doing to Palestinians is awful, but it's only icing on the cake. There is only one reason why everyone must oppose Israel: it's a destabilizing presence in the Middle East and the world at-large and a tool of Western imperialists.
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- Local MachineLv 41 month ago
I just want them to gtf out our Gentile American soil, that all.
To all of us US folks, America is our country, to them js' it's their business ground of dirtee ticks.
Just ask any of these j-rabs what flag do they salute? Not ours fo sure. Sheeloom!
- BMCRLv 71 month ago
The two sides are pro Israel vs. anti Israel.
If you understand that, you understand the conflict.
It has nothing to do with legitimacy.
Israel has existed for over 70 years. It doesn't have to continuously justify its existence.
- RobertLv 61 month ago
A dispute over the land of Israel between the Jewish People, and the “Palestinian” Arabs (the Arabs who call the land “Palestine”). Objective-evidence and internationally-accepted history shows the Jewish People’s claim can be verified, whereas the false-claim made by the Palestinians cannot be verified.
Internationally-recognised history shows that the last indigenous sovereign state in the land of Israel (Roman occupier imposed-name "Palestine"), prior to the RE-establishment of Israel in 1948, was the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah. It included the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights. Capital (what is now East) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH - Map:
The reader can also learn how the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah
re-gained its independence from the Greek Seleucid empire, from the following two sources:
Extract from “Josephus - “Antiquities of the Jews”, Book 13, part of Paragraph 11 of Chapter 5, to end of Chapter 7.
(PDF file comprising introduction and then one paragraph to each page, total 16 pages):
Extract from “1 Maccabees”, Chapters 14 to 16 inclusive.
(PDF file comprising introduction and then 10 verses to each page, total 13 pages):
Coins (see example uploaded image) from the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah:
Judean independence ended with Roman occupation, and many but not all Jews, were exiled, including to Europe.
Whereas millions of Jewish men, women, and children, were murdered by the Nazis for being ethnically-Jewish, the “Palestinian” Arabs and their anti-Semitic supporters are obliged to claim propaganda-fantasy falsely-denying the Judean heritage of the Jewish People and falsely-claiming the Palestinians are descendants of Jews, so as to dishonestly evade the noble Quran’s recognition that the Land of Israel is given by Allah / God to the Jewish People (noble Quran: Sura “Al-Maaida” 5:21, extract below).
The reason for their propaganda is to perpetrate a hoax that Jewish Israelis are foreign invaders. This being an attempt to justify taking the land of Israel, in which the Jewish community has had unbroken presence from Biblical times, from before Arab invasion and occupation!
Referring to the Bible where it talks about the Jewish People being given the land of Canaan by Allah / God, the noble Quran recognizes that the Land of Israel is given by Allah / God to the Jewish People, saying:
- - - - Start of English translation extract from the noble Quran: - - - -
Sura (chapter) “Al-Maaida” [“The Table” or “The Table Spread with Food”] 5:21:
“O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you,
and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.”
- - - - End of English translation extract from the noble Quran - - - -
The false-claim that the Palestinians are the so-called “real-Jews”, would also put the Palestinians in “difficulty”, for their “Palestinian National Charter” seeks to expel all current Jews from Israel !
The Holocaust speeded-up a return by some Jewish exiles to their homeland, which had already been underway before the second world war.
The Jewish People are the indigenous people of their ancestral homeland of Israel with unbroken presence there since Biblical times:
Why then do we refer to a “Return” of some Jewish exiles? While there is unbroken Jewish presence in the land of Israel from Biblical times, some Jewish exiles wished to return to their ancestral homeland of Israel. The clue is in the name:
“Jew” refers to the citizens of “Judah” (aka “Judea”) / Israel.
There has never been an indigenous sovereign state of “Palestine” upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to the land of Israel.
Following the Ottoman Turkish defeat in the First World War, the League of Nations in 1921 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate, whose inhabitants were known as:
“Palestinian Jews” / “Palestinian Arabs”. An imperial administrative region, it was an area that later would be today’s:
Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories.
The prior Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political term as “Palestine”, but rather Ottoman-occupied Judea / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria”.
The “Palestinian” Arabs having considered themselves to be Arab only, this is why they were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
Israel (size of New Jersey state in the U.S., or Wales in the U.K.) was Re-established in 1948 following a United Nations Partition Plan which had sought to set up two states, one Jewish and one Arab:
The then Palestinian Jewish Community accepted the U.N. Partition Plan, while in 1947 the “Palestinian” Arabs commenced a civil war to oppose it, instead take ALL the land, and expel (or murder) the Jews. Arab countries also attacked with the same objectives, but the Arabs lost the war.
However, Jordan illegally-occupied the West Bank, and also East Jerusalem from which the Jordanians expelled the Jews.
Egypt illegally-occupied the Gaza strip. Neither of them offered any area to the "Palestinian" Arabs.
(Please see “Sources” area of this answer.)
"Palestinian" Arab propaganda falsely-alleges the Re-establishment of Israel caused: a “great injustice” / “nakba” (“catastrophe” / “disaster”) to the Palestinians.
> The Palestinians violently rejected the Arab state of the U.N. Partition Plan;
> Jordan and Egypt occupied the land proposed for an Arab state under the U.N. Partition Plan (approximating to the West Bank and Gaza);
> BOTH Arabs and Jews, became war-refugees;
> The Palestinians falsely-claim with no evidence of any such policy that they were expelled from the land; Jews were indeed expelled by the Arabs as policy. Palestinians live and work in Israel.
Therefore the reader is entitled to be skeptical about "Palestinian" Arab propaganda alleging a fantasy-injustice.
Some Arab refugees had owned land / homes there, but private land / home ownership does not of itself amount to proof of entitlement to the sovereignty of the country in which a community lives.
Some Palestinians have Israeli citizenship, while most refuse it because they falsely-claim ALL the land of Israel.
In 1967 Israel gained control of the West Bank and Gaza and as an attempt at “land for peace” under the Oslo Accords, granted the Palestinians autonomy of part of the West Bank (40%) and the whole of Gaza (anticipating a peace treaty until when the land remains Israel’s).
Afterwhich the Palestinians:
> Do not sincerely negotiate any peace treaty.
> Make an unverifiable false-claim to ALL the land of Israel.
> Want to expel the Jews from the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel.
> Attack Israeli Jewish civilians as policy including children.
No wonder anti-Semites display such emotional-support for the Palestinians!
Israel is often accused of being in breach of United Nations resolutions. This is because of the U.N.'s built-in pro-Palestinian bias, due to its block-vote of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation”), plus the influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading-power; compared to Israel being just one country.
U.N. resolutions on Israel give the appearance of having been drafted for the U.N. by Palestinian-Propaganda-Central in Ramallah.
Fully-complicit with "Palestinian" Arab propaganda falsely-denying Jewish roots in the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel, both the U.N and European Union regard the Jewish People as “invaders” thus as “thieves” and “illegal-occupiers”, of the Jews OWN land (of prior Jewish kingdoms of Judea / Israel), thus of building “illegal-settlements”, with Palestinian terrorism considered as: “resistance to occupation”.
Consequently, the Jewish People are the only people in the world falsely and perversely accused of having “stolen”, and of “illegally-occupying”, their own ancestral homeland of Israel.
The "Palestinian" Arabs mostly originate from foreign Arab migrant workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to and during the British Mandate - See “Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine: A Survey”, by Richard Mather:
The Palestinians obtained a unique false inheritable refugee status from the Arab-dominated U.N, for bundling with their dishonest "right of return" as a fraudent means of invading Israel - see best/favorite answer, at:
Supporting the “Palestinian” Arabs is NO support for any two-state solution. Why? The “Palestinian” Arabs deceive the world into believing they seek a two-state solution, whereas in reality they falsely-claim ALL the land of Israel (to none of which do they have any verifiable-claim) and to expel or murder the Jews. This is clear from what is taught by the Palestinian education system and from the “Palestinian National Charter”.
I hope this helps.
Robert.Source(s): Additional Sources: Jordanian illegal-occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_annexation... Egyptian illegal-occupation of Gaza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ga...
- 1 month ago
I always relate this story to the students in my classroom :
"One day a poor European family, a man, woman and three kids came from abroad, talking another language, teared cloths, needs to eat and rest, a Palestinian poor dad saw them and find out that they are poor like him, the difference between them was very small, they understood each other because both were poor, he invited them and they accepted with gratitude.
after a week, the visitor was very happy, thanked the guy and started work to help the house owner and his family.
Another week finished the European was more educated, he got a better Job and helped more in the house income, he asked the Palestinian dad to get another room in the house and will give him some money. As the Palestinian was simple and honest accepted thinking that this new money will help him raise his children.
A couple of weeks after, things were going the same way, the visitor told the owner that he will add extensions to the house and everybody will be happy, as usual the Palestinian dad accepted but started to feel things are changing to the visitor's favor, again money was the reason.
Few weeks after the Visitor was a lot richer than the owner, and started to explain to the Palestinian that he worked hard and since couple of thousand years his ancestors were in the area so he will take over the house and help the Palestinian family to live better.
This time the Palestinian refused and explained to the Visitor that the land was also to his ancestors since thousands of years, unfortunately the Visitor did not accept the argument of the Palestinian Owner, killed him and threw his family out."
And for sure you are smart enough to imagine the rest.
Please don't equalize the aggressor (Israel) with the aggressed (Palestine).
The land is Palestinian and was occupied by the Zionist state, for sure Palestine is right, and the Zionists will be brought to justice for 73 years of ethnic cleansing and Apartheid.Source(s): www.uselesstoprovidesourcesthatdoesnotrelatetozionists.com