So religion is based on faith, faith is not fact based or supported by any evidence therefore it is the opposite of science and logic?
- 4 weeks ago
Yeah, but don't knock 'em for that per se. There have been and are many people of faith in this world who've done a great deal of good for it. Look at the individuals, not the group.
- Not ApplicableLv 64 weeks ago
Faith is one of those words tossed around so much that it has almost lost its meaning. Trust might be a better word because it is more open-ended, but even there religion can be fact based. To grossly oversimplify, I tend to think of science as a left-brain activity and religion is a right-brain activity. They ask different questions: science-how; religion-why. Yes, there can be overlap, just as there can be in the hemispheres of the brain. What I do find is when science wanders too far into the "why" camp, it soon becomes clear they are out of their lane. The same is true for religion getting too far into the "how" camp, clearly out of their lane. That's why we have various aspects of our cognitive abilities which are constantly changing, growing and adapting to new information.
Solution: I recommend something called humility. We are all constantly learning and any time someone thinks they have "arrived", they haven't! And that includes science in the "how" camp and religion in the "why" camp.
- sk8terboy1963Lv 44 weeks ago
Religion is an assumed conclusion based on suspect claims from dubious sources supported by logical fallacies nested within circular reasoning bringing you back to the assumed conclusion. It is dishonest to assert as fact that which is not evidently true. Yet that is what religion does. It always tries to assert as fact things that we already know are not true or even possible. Not only is religion not evidently true, it is evidently not true as well. Not one single person in all of human history has EVER presented any proof or evidence of a god..... ANY god. It is simply left over ancient superstitious nonsense and woo woo with no basis in reality at all.
- Annsan_In_HimLv 74 weeks ago
Ah, no, because faith may turn out to be based on fact. And scientists have to have faith in their unproven theories, to pursue them to the point where enough evidence has been gathered to show they are not stupid theories but substantiated ones. Richard Dawkins, in a lecture he gave at the Edinburgh International Science Festival on April 15, 1992, claimed that "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."Unfortunately, that back-fires on atheists when it comes to belief about unseen things in the universe. Even before microscopes and telescopes were invented, people had faith (belief in) the existence of atoms and heavenly bodies that could not be seen. Even with such equipment, it then still took faith to believe in black holes and dark matter and dark energy. Despite lack of proof, the claims and efforts were made to show their faith was reasonable. They were rewarded for their persistence. But they won't accord Bible believers the same respect. We believe in things that cannot be seen due to other evidence. Yet this other evidence is scorned by those who don't know how to begin to think about evidence for that which is not material!
Further, the US National Academy of Sciences stated: "Science is a way of knowing about the natural world. It is limited to explaining the natural world through natural causes. Science can say nothing about the supernatural. Whether God exists or not is a question about which science is neutral." - (from page 28 of Victor J. Stenger's 'God, The Failed Hypothesis') But read "Who Made God? In search of a theory of everything" by Edgar Andrews, where this scientist explains the hypothesis of God, and takes Stenger to task.
The Christian religion is based on the reality of the man, Jesus Christ, and God's written revelations about Him, and Himself. You can put both to the test, once you stop using 'scientific evidence' as your excuse not to bother.
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- 4 weeks ago
Faith and belief are like brothers and sisters, they are close kin to each other, you are saying what a person believes is not fact based, that is a ridiculous statement since every single person every single day does things based on faith and belief, ( example ) if you drive a car, ( before ) you learned to drive it, you had to believe you could, or have confidence you could, if you don't believe you can, you will never try, ( unless your forced ) the whole world is run on faith on a daily basis, people not knowing they can do something until they try it, believing and knowing are different things, it doesn't require faith to drive a car once you learn ( you now know you can ) but it does require faith to get out on a highway and then it requires faith and hope ( another brother and sister ), the faith and hope you don't get into a accident, you trying to say one can not believe in God is the same as telling someone, you can NOT drive that car or do anything else you believe you can do because you don't KNOW if you can do it and there's no evidence to support your belief, don't you see how ridiculous that is? Or perhaps you were born with the ALL KNOWING power of God and only you are allowed to drive a car, and you say there is no evidence of science and logic? I say just the opposite, faith and belief is a REAL thing that exist in the person that desires something they don't know exist or can happen, if science and logic is saying faith don't exist then I would say science and logic needs to see a psychiatrist.
- PaulLv 74 weeks ago
Faith is totally based on evidence. Can you possibly believe that hundreds of millions of intelligent people would just somehow "decide" to believe in God, without clear evidence leading them to do so? And in many cases, accept brutal death rather than denying Him? God will provide that evidence to anyone who sincerely desires to know the truth concerning Him. Incidentally, scientists also rely on faith - faith in our experiments and research.
born again Christian biologist
- PubliusLv 74 weeks ago
Non sequitur, pard. Religion is based on faith, and faith has to be based on something true. There has to be a way to eventually vindicate it. Faith is mostly a willingness to find things out for ourselves, no matter how difficult or inconvenient the process. Religion, properly used, is simply another methodology to discover truth.
- Forrest ToneyLv 74 weeks ago
Neither is science . For now the top scientist say that nothing can be real ; but that all that appears to exist must be caused by some benevolent intelligent ultimate observer .
- JoeP222Lv 74 weeks ago
Faith is not the absence of evidence, so your premise is in error. Moreover, faith and science are not polar opposites nor mutually exclusive.
- EntropyLv 74 weeks ago
Faith, BY DEFINITION, is belief without proof or evidence. If you had proof, you wouldn't have faith...you'd have knowledge. Even if you merely had evidence, and it wasn't conclusive, it would no longer be faith because there would be a rational basis for it.
Religious people talk about faith like it's a virtue. But it's the opposite of a virtue. Having faith (as the term is defined in a religious context) is simple foolishness.