Why is Trump and Republicans Plotting to Undermine Democracy?


I understand that it's a Republic but this Republic is also a Democracy, if it wasn't you wouldn't have the freedoms you have.

Update 2:

Is the US a Republic or a Democracy?

The following statement is often used to define the US' system of government: "The US is a republic, not a democracy.” This statement suggests that the concepts & characteristics of republics & democracies can never coexist in a single form of government.

Update 3:

 However, this is rarely the case. As in the US, most republics function as blended “representational democracies” featuring a democracy’s political powers of the majority tempered by a republic’s system of checks & balances enforced by a constitution that protects the minority from the majority.

To say that the United States is strictly a democracy suggests that the minority is completely unprotected from the will of the majority, which is not correct.

Update 4:

Okay.... Now back to my question:  Why is Trump and Republicans Plotting to Undermine Democracy?

Update 5:

@ Frank I don't watch CNN or Fox, I watch BBC, MSNBC, read Washington post and CBC. 

14 Answers

  • 2 months ago

    Why Trump and Republicans Are Plotting to Undermine Democracy

    By Jonathan Chait

    In the late 1990s, I was sitting in an off-the-record lunch with a very high-ranking member of the Republican Party’s congressional leadership. The purpose of these meetings was to give journalists a chance to hear the candid views of influential people, peeling back the spin and polish of their public talking points. Sometimes the guests presented themselves as more sane than they appeared on television. Other times, they revealed themselves to be even crazier. This was one of the latter occasions.

    One of our writers asked the guest a question premised on the most recent election results. Bill Clinton had beaten Bob Dole by more than 8 million votes. But the guest rejected the premise of the question. He insisted that Clinton’s margin reflected mass-scale voter fraud, and the true intentions of the voting public could never be known.

    If you want to understand why nearly the entire Republican Party is standing by Donald Trump’s deranged claims that Joe Biden stole the election, this belief is a good place to begin. The party is playing the same extraordinarily dangerous game it has played with Trump since he emerged onto the national stage: placating his bizarre lies in hopes they can be turned to their own benefit. They don’t expect Trump’s legal challenges to produce a victory. They do, however, sympathize with his position and believe they have every right to exploit it.

    Republicans Think Democrats Always Cheat

    The Republican strategy has several sources of motivation, but the most important is a widely shared belief that Democrats in large cities — i.e., racial minorities — engage in systematic vote fraud, election after election. “We win because of our ideas, we lose elections because they cheat us,” insisted Senator Lindsey Graham on Fox News last night. The Bush administration pursued phantasmal vote-fraud allegations, firing prosecutors for failing to uncover evidence of the schemes Republicans insisted were happening under their noses. In 2008, even a Republican as civic-minded as John McCain accused ACORN, a voter-registration group, of “maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.”

    The persistent failure to produce evidence of mass-scale vote fraud has not discouraged Republicans from believing in its existence. The failure to expose it merely proves how well hidden the conspiracy is. Republicans may despair of their chances of proving Trump’s vote-fraud charges in open court, but many of them believe his wild lies reflect a deeper truth.

    Republicans Blame Democrats for Trump’s Scandals

    Second, they believe Trump’s refusal to accept the election results is fair play because Democrats did it to him. “Let’s not have any lectures about how the president should immediately, cheerfully accept preliminary election results from the same characters who just spent four years refusing to accept the validity of the last election,” proclaimed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

    What on earth is McConnell talking about? Hillary Clinton, after all, graciously accepted the results of the election the morning after, once her razor-thin defeat had become clear. McConnell obviously does not have the election result itself in mind. Instead he seems to be referring to the broader pattern of resistance to Trump during his term.

    Republicans blame the four-year stream of misconduct and outright criminality not on Trump but on the reporters and investigators who uncovered it. Trump faced “a political insurgency that refused in practice, if not in formal fact, to accept the outcome of an election its candidate had lost,” Wall Street Journal columnist and recent editor Gerard Baker rants in his column today. “The members of this resistance spent four years using every lever at their disposal — bureaucracy, law enforcement, Congress, news media — to thwart, disrupt and try to bring down the duly elected president.”

    Clinton may have technically accepted the election result very quickly, and the Obama administration may have technically offered full cooperation with the transition. But in reality, Trump’s opponents proceeded to expose massive corruption and wrongdoing — and the blame for this rests not on Trump but on them.

    A version of this argument comes from Trump defender Byron York, who sniffs, “Why should they be surprised when Trump says the other side cheated? After all, they said the same thing four years ago after the 2016 election.” York is referring to the investigation by Robert Mueller, a Republican, who was appointed by Rod Rosenstein, a Republican, to pursue narrow criminal cases initiated by James Comey, also a Republican. The investigation was somewhat thwarted because the aides most directly involved in Trump’s collusion with Russia, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort, withheld cooperation in the apparent expectation of a pardon. But much of the evidence was sitting in plain sight — for one thing, Trump asked Russia to hack Clinton’s emails on live television, a request Russia immediately obliged — so if we define Trump’s solicitation of Russian email theft as “cheating,” then the charge is indisputable.

    But Republicans experienced the Mueller investigation and other Trump scandals as a humiliation that they equate with Democratic refusal to accept his presidency. Indeed, many of his loyalists predicted that Democrats would refuse to accept Trump’s reelection:

    Having internalized their conviction that Democrats effectively refused to concede the 2016 election, and would surely do so formally in 2020, they can now rationalize Trump’s outright refusal to do so as delicious revenge.

    Wild Fraud Claims Are Now “the Process”

    Third, they have rationalized Trump’s conspiracy-mongering as a simple and uncontroversial call to follow the rules. Ben Shapiro elucidated the party line, “The legal process must play out,” as if the normal way elections are resolved is to have attorneys appear in the parking lot of a landscaping company hurling bizarre charges.

    Ginning up no-hope lawsuits to throw out tens of thousands of votes in multiple states was obviously never part of “the process” of American presidential elections until now. Trump’s supporters rationalize it as a necessary step to assure his fans that the election was fair. “Under the contentious circumstances of this election, the traditional media’s decision to declare a victor before the official process had run its course has diminished the confidence of Trump voters in the announced result,” argues Andy Puzder, rejected Labor-secretary nominee and author of The Capitalist Comeback: The Trump Boom and the Left’s Plot to Stop It. “Even if the declaration of a Biden victory is found to be accurate, the call was premature, and it will make the effort to unify our nation far more difficult.”

    Note the circular logic: The election is “contentious” because Trump has made it contentious, and the media declared a victory before “the process ran its course” because Trump refused to accept the outcome as other candidates have, and therefore his supporters need and deserve special reassurance.

    Puzder points to 2012 as an election that proceeded without any such suspicion: “In 2012, many Republicans felt disappointed when Mitt Romney lost to President Obama. Very few felt cheated.”

    In fact, one Republican who did feel cheated by the 2012 result was Donald Trump. The famous birther had a public meltdown on Election Night, labeling the outcome a “sham” and calling for a march on Washington to carry out a “revolution”:

    This is not “the process” for how American candidates respond to clear defeat. It’s Trump’s process for denying defeat. But when he accused Ted Cruz of stealing the 2016 Iowa caucus, Republicans oddly did not see the need for a process to play out to assure Trump’s fans the result was fair.

    Trump Is Rallying Their Base

    Finally, Republicans believe Trump’s attacks on the election outcome will help them. A senior Republican official confessed the the party’s calculation in a breathtakingly cynical quote to the Washington Post:

    “What is the downside for humoring him for this little bit of time? No one seriously thinks the results will change,” said one senior Republican official. “He went golfing this weekend. It’s not like he’s plotting how to prevent Joe Biden from taking power on Jan. 20. He’s tweeting about filing some lawsuits, those lawsuits will fail, then he’ll tweet some more about how the election was stolen, and then he’ll leave.”

    Post reporter Robert Costa adds that the party sees Trump’s paranoid claims as an excellent motivator for the January Senate special elections in Georgia:

    Republicans had little success in teaching their voters to despise and fear Biden like they despised and feared Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Trump’s election fraud lies are doing that work for them now, whipping the base into a frenzy of anger and priming them to regard Biden as the beneficiary of a stolen election.

    This is not a plot to steal the 2020 election. It is a decades-long campaign to undermine American democracy, which treats Democratic governance as inherently illegitimate.

    Republicans played Russian roulette with American democracy by supporting the presidency of an aspirational authoritarian. They’ll continue doing so by supporting his paranoid attacks on the electoral process. The reason they’re willing to weaken American democracy is very simple: They don’t care about democracy.

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  • Anonymous
    3 months ago

    First of all that yes, the US is a Republic however that refers to the form of government and the principles that allow the US to be a democracy.  Democracy is more of an idea than an actual form of government and there are two main types, Republic and Parliamentary.  The US for example as stated is a Republic, Canada to the north is a Parliamentary Democracy.  

    Trump is more of a Socialist Capitalist than a person who represent either of the above types.  It is somewhat ironic but I read up on Hugo Chavez since on of Trumps lawyers has often referred to him and claimed that the software used was designed for him to allow vote flipping.  The fact that a physical hand count of the votes in one state disproves this has failed to change her story but that is another discussion.  The way Trump governs is very similar to that used by Hugo Chavez with one difference, Chavez was opposed to the rich and many of his policies were designed to punish them.  Trump on the other hand as one of the rich has formulated his policies to give them benefits not enjoyed by the average working person in the US, basically reductions in the total amount of taxes they have to pay (which is why about 80% of the ultra rich and large corporations support him, they love tax breaks).

    I read an interesting article that stated that the modern Republican is more responsive positively to an authoritarian type of government.  It is covered by the idea that they are "protecting Democracy" but in reality most of the actions being currently undertaken regarding the election are, in fact, the exact opposite.  The recounts and claims of voter fraud have become the norm for Republicans, even when they win.  Trump started an investigation into the claim that there were 3 million illegal votes in the 2016 election, a claim advanced by an individual who refused to provide any proof and despite claims he would, never did.  His investigation ended quietly with no results except for the rather telling comment that they found Republicans were just as likely to commit voter fraud as anyone else.  In fact the only illegal immigrant they found that actually voted was a Trump supporter.  The only incident of a person attempting to vote twice that was identified was also a Trump supporter.  This of course begs the question, did they actually find those 3 million votes but discover they were Trump votes?

    I have deviated somewhat, the answer to your question is that the leaders of the modern Republican Party are not Republicans and have not been for several decades.  The party has been co-opted by a group that realized to seize and keep power you need a base that will follow you to the point where individual thought and logic are ignored so they have been working hard to create a group such as this.  Trump, as a con man, realized that this was occurring and such a based existed and tapped into it during his initial run for President.  He has worked on the idea, just like Hugo Chavez did, that the press and others are "out to get him" and only he can lead the country to glory.  If you want an example of what the US would become under Trump you only have to look at Venezuela to get an idea where the US economy is actually heading for the average worker.

  • Anonymous
    3 months ago

    They want to be masters and for you to be slaves.

  • 3 months ago

    They are a minority party. By 2030, the United Sates will be a non-white country. So they are trying to institute permanent minority rule. If not Trump will be the last white President. Racist, mysoginist, xenophobic, religious bigot. 

    There will be blacks, women, gay, etc. But Trump is the last white president.

    The Republicans know he's incompetent. They probably know he's a Russian agent. But he staved off the inevitable. He defeated Hillary in the Electoral College. They'd like to install him as dictator for life.  Doing nothing on corona virus, they say will killed mostly minorities.

    Last white President; Donald Trump

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  • Anonymous
    3 months ago

    Biden: We Have Put Together The Most Extensive And Inclusive Voter Fraud Organization In The History Of American Politics

  • Anonymous
    3 months ago

    That is what they do, besides, they don’t believe the United States is a democracy they consider it a republic.

  • Zany
    Lv 5
    3 months ago

    If they get away with it we will have no reason to claim that the vote counts.

  • Mark
    Lv 7
    3 months ago

    Because Trump is an idiot.

  • Anonymous
    3 months ago

    America isn't a democracy

  • 3 months ago

    How is that again?

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