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Is being born from above the same as being born again of the spirit when Holy Spirit baptized?

Update:

Who told you "Holy Spirit Baptism is for the power to minister" when Acts 2:39 says  "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call?" (Acts 2:39)!

When are you people going to realize we are (((BORN))) ***DEAD*** spirits" (Romans 5:12-14; I Cor 15:21-22) who must have (((POWER))) (Acts 1:8) come upon us" after Holy Spirit baptism (Acts 1:5) Who "QUICKENS us back to life" (Eph 2:1)?

Update 2:

In order to (((BE))) "born (((AGAIN))) of the Spirit" (John 3:5-7) for "SALVATION" (Mark 16:16) and is (((NO DIFFERENT)))?

Update 3:

@FIREBALL

How did you get His Spirit inside of you (Rm 8:9) to house the Holy Spirit but you don't have His (((POWER))) (Acts 1:8) (((SPIRITUAL GIFTS))) (I Cor 12:7-10) and (((SIGNS FOLLOWING))) (Mark 16:17-18) Jesus said comes with His Spirit dwelling inside of you (Rm 8:9) after  Holy Spirit baptism (Acts 1:5; I Cor 12:13; Mk 16:16) when we are "no longer in the flesh but in the Spirit (Rm 8:9)? 

What RAPTURE?  When that's when you physically die and it's too late (Ecc 9:5)?

Update 4:

I know you really believe what man has taught you, BUT IT'S A LIE.

Update 5:

@cs

No truer words ever spoken "We are talking about changing the destiny for believers" in His (((POWER))) that comes upon us (Acts 1:8) Who QUICKENS us (I Cor 15:45) "back to life" (Eph 2:1) from our "DEAD spirits" (Romans 5:12-14; I Cor 15:21-22) as we are "born again of the spirit" (John 3:5-7) "Which were born ["Again" John 3:5-7], not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:13) or "FROM ABOVE"

Update 6:

@GLENN S

You "FORGET GOD" (Psalm 9:17) SAID we are born "DEAD spirits" and just went straight to "Whoever believes in Him..." but you don't believe we MUST be "QUICKENED back to life" (Eph 2:1) by His (((POWER))) that comes upon us (Acts 1:8) Who QUICKENS us (I Cor 15:45) "back to life" (Eph 2:1) from our "DEAD spirits" (Romans 5:12-14; I Cor 15:21-22) as we are "born again of the spirit" (John 3:5-7) 

Update 7:

"Which were born ["Again" John 3:5-7], not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:13) or "FROM ABOVE"

If you miss the "QUICKENING back to life" (Eph 2:1) part you remain a "DEAD spirit" (((STILL IN SIN))) (Romans 6:23).

Update 8:

You (((CAN NOT))) ***BY-PASS*** being "QUICKENED back to life" (Ephesians 2:1) or the Scriptures don't apply to you.

The (((ONLY WAY))) one can be "QUICKENED back to life" is by His (((POWER))) that comes upon us" (Acts 1:8) after Holy Spirit baptism (Acts 1:5) with (((PROOF))) of "Spiritual gifts" (I Cor 12:7-10) and "Signs following" (Mk 16:17-18) to (((CONFIRM))) that the LORD is working with you" (Mk 16:20).

Jeremiah 1:12!

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  • 2 months ago

    Yes, I think they are.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 months ago

    All properly done water baptism is Holy Spirit Baptism.

  • 2 months ago

    Yes.....It means being "born again" or "born of God".

    Jesus explains how to become born of God: “Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have everlasting life” (verse 16). When we are born into the family of God (John 1:12), we grow to look more like our Father.

    John 3:9 describes a person who has been born of God: “No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning because they have been born of God.” God our Father is holy, and He desires that His children become holy like He is (1 Peter 1:15–16). When we are born of God, we have a new heart, one that wants to please God (Ezekiel 36:26; 2 Corinthians 5:9; Colossians 1:10). This does not come about by good intentions or white-knuckled effort. We please our new Father by surrendering to His Holy Spirit who lives within us. We allow Him to change our desires, our goals, and our will to conform to His (Romans 8:29; Philippians 2:13). As a baby grows to look like the parents to whom it was born, so do we grow to be more like our heavenly Father when we are born of God (Philippians 3:10; Romans 6:1–2).

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    Psalms 9:17 says no such thing.  "The wicked will return to Sheol,

    Even all the nations who forget God"

    Born again people are not wicked

  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 months ago

    It's the same words in the Greek, just translated differently. Yes, they mean the same thing. Each will give a person some insight on what exactly is being said, and how important it is. We are talking about literally changing the destiny for a person. It's that important.

    John 3

    7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’

    AGAIN (Greek "anōthen" adverb G509)

    I. from above, from a higher place

      A. of things which come from heaven or God

    II. from the first, from the beginning, from the very first

    III. anew, over again

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexic...

  • 2 months ago

    WHEN STILL human we house the Holy Spirit..When Rapture comes God will make the born agains spirit beings who never die...How much love is that? There is no better reward than what He has planned for us...typing this makes me cry...ANYONE CAN PRAY AND REPENT TO JESUS when willing...He loves us so much!!

  • 2 months ago

    Holy Spirit Baptism is for the power to minister

    Salvation is being born again in the spirit

    They are different

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