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Anonymous asked in Entertainment & MusicHoroscopes · 1 month ago

when and why did astrologers begin to be censored & forced to denounce " Fatality" in Astrology & that Astrology could predict the future? ?

they had to change their theory that Astrology predicted the future, but instead that it indicated possible outcomes, but nothing was written in stone. ? when , why ? is this what "Christian Astrology" was about?  

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago
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    "Fatalism," not "fatality. What follows is a broad explanation off the top of my head.  It's not a formal paper.  There might be slight errors in the history.

    To answer the last, first, "Christian Astrology" is a text written by William Lilly first published in 1647 with a later edition in I think 1659.  It is just that, a text.  No one knows for sure why Lilly chose that title.  He had little use for the clergy and it's been suggested he was trying to show that astrology could be practiced by faithful Christians, hence the title.  Christ is never mentioned, but God is, here and there. 

    The second question is a bit more involved.  Astrology had been associated primarily with prediction since the beginning.  Greek or Hellenistic or horoscopic astrology began roughly 2000 years ago.  Prior to that, Babylon and possibly Egypt practiced a kind of "omenology."  They looked to the sky for omens to predict the future in general.  Horoscopic astrology is that which uses a horoscope or an astrological chart for analysis.

    Individual personality traits were mentioned but not given as much consideration as events or fate. The age of narcissism hadn't dawned and wouldn't until Freud and fortune telling laws joined forces without knowing it.  

    In the (roughly) mid 1800s Great Britain passed "vagrancy" laws primarily aimed at Gypsies who were thought (sometimes correctly) to be swindling gullible women (who by virtue of their gender "obviously" need legal protection) out of money with various fortune telling schemes.  The wording of the law included the phrase "pretending to tell fortunes."  Since the telling of fortunes was not further defined, it could, in the popular view, pertain to astrology.  The penalties were harsh and one astrologer was sentenced to hard labor for practicing his art and that resulted in his death in prison.  It is notable that whenever these laws are enforced, they are not the result of customer's complaints, but of do-gooders informing the rest of us how to live.

    In order to practice, fortune telling, which was considered to be prediction, had to be avoided.  In 1914 two important cases came up.  One in the UK involving astrologer Alan Leo, and the other in the US involving astrologer Evangeline Adams.  Leo lost (in a joke of a trial), and was fined a small amount.  Adams won.  However the laws remain on the books. 

    So Leo had already claimed even prior to his trial, albeit unsuccessfully that he was not predicting the future but performing character analysis.  Prediction was and is considered fatalistic and despite not fully understanding the real meaning of that term, it was socially unacceptable. 

    Then in the 1930s Dane Rudhyar, occultist, published a book titled "The Astrology of Personality."  Rudhyar was actually relying heavily without credit, on an older contemporary astrologer, Marc Edmond Jones, who was anti-prediction.  As a result of Rudhyar's book, "Psychological Astrology" took off, and older predictive astrology was considered invalid.  There is no shortage of self-righteousness in the astrology world and predictive astrology became considered passe and from there to wrong.  Two thousand years of history dismissed - poof - just like that. 

    There were other problems.  Old astrology books, beginning in the late 18th century, that explained what real astrologers were actually doing fell out of print, and only the superficial works were available, each claiming to be based on older astrology and almost none actually were.  At this point astrology began to be associated with the occult. By the 1970s psychological astrology was almost all that was available.

    What goes around comes around.  Beginning in 1974 old astrology texts were reintroduced.  In 1984 Lilly's Christian Astrology  was republished in facsimile form and from there easier to read retyped editions were also published and studied.  Today there are all kinds of English translations of ancient and medieval astrology texts as well was Renaissance texts are now available and are being used.  It's the Old timers that keep whining about prediction.  

    Make no mistake.  Even Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos has its "Psychological" descriptions, but people back then and until Freud were more interested in how their lives would turn out than what was going on between their ears, and they were better off for it. 

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